From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: PJ Weisberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What does Emacs on w32 know that grep can't figure out? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:43:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285911838 14044 80.91.229.12 (1 Oct 2010 05:43:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 05:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 07:43:56 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1YPS-0001K0-Pa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 07:43:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37118 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P1YPS-0006eS-4q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 01:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58387 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P1YPI-0006eI-KQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 01:43:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P1YPH-0003gM-Dn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 01:43:44 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth15.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.26]:55208) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P1YPH-0003f6-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 01:43:43 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 31625 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2010 05:43:41 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (209.85.214.169) by smtpauth15.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.26) with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2010 05:43:41 -0000 Original-Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so5211396iwn.0 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.42.7.133 with SMTP id e5mr6061035ice.9.1285911819339; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.42.5.138 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:43:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131131 Archived-At: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM, PJ Weisberg wrote: > On 9/30/10, Lennart Borgman wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Juanma Barranquero wr= ote: > >>> Oh, I wouldn't consider Emacs broken if I cannot grep utf-16 files >>> from inside it. YMMV. >> >> I am a bit surprised by that. > > Well, the "grep through files" function is semi-broken, but then > again, the "send email" function is broken if your mail server is > down. =A0::shrug:: This issue deserves more respect than it's been getting, though. It's perfectly reasonable to expect a utility for searching through text to find text in a file containing text. Emacs delegates that task to grep, and if it doesn't work properly that should be addressed in grep. The percentage of grep users who use it through Emacs is tiny, so assuming for the moment that everyone agrees that grep should support UTF-16, addressing it in emacs instead of grep would mean the problem is still mostly unfixed.