From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:03:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8B0A9975872A4658988961645E6AC4AB@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278720596 4436 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2010 00:09:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dan Nicolaescu , Lennart Borgman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 10 02:09:54 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNdh-00065s-60 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:09:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38016 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXNdf-0005eJ-Rz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43879 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXNdX-0005di-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNdW-0005tQ-AP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:09:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:55410) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNdT-0005sU-Ny; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:09:39 -0400 Original-Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1808729bwz.0 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:09:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZlP1vdqw7x0zwTrL7/bpjmHSRqOyL20pYyXWHCB/qxI=; b=TuskVS6O866yjB2k89fXcXoJZjiBYViLSP5VJrrlK0B+G/wMBbpVRM6Rsh+YzEMZj3 FX5BRNFC6viha5VMCnqtL4xdc+YuEnRjpKyIxJXqcyv6jw+3YkwnK/RdntTnCtPGsaIO FKkwJqKsq7P5kv2NDW5AhW6+P3qfk1W6uuyHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WrkrUhNnxLI71uweDoeXHLEeTSlmsiEgyn2JJJ/TvOl1qjXLfOJK4pfe7efszu9O3l Mhr6FiA9QAmTif7lqgKdYM1Lkm6sRFNDTbu30csg9yN7juWVSvK7R1rWmt2m7aYrHdQ6 QppA5/X7qFNbXGf4LgPQUikkQ0t8NEz6d3kkA= Original-Received: by 10.204.48.210 with SMTP id s18mr8145326bkf.62.1278720578675; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.204.53.204 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8B0A9975872A4658988961645E6AC4AB@us.oracle.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126973 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 19:29, Drew Adams wrote: > So now it seems that this thread has been diverted to a discussion about = merging > Lennart's emacsclient changes, who should do that, why... =C2=A0Next you'= ll be > discussing each of those changes individually. =C2=A0Then... > > Why is it so difficult to _start a new thread_ when you change the subjec= t? > > Here, FWIW, was the place where you turned off the road: > >>> And the reason for it is IMO >>> partly that emacs client does not start Emacs by default. (It does in >>> the patched version of Emacs+EmacsW32 however.) >> >> You could send patches for the standard Emacs... >> Hey! Didn't we have this conversation (a few times) before? :-) > > Some discussion of emacsclient problems and improvements _might_ be appro= priate > for this thread, provided it remains tied to a discussion about attractin= g more > users. > > But when you take a detour to pursue emacsclient implementation and merge > details, you've left the road, probably forever. =C2=A0At best, you're on= a side > road. =C2=A0At worst, you're off into the swamp. > > --=20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma