From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:22:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281028598 8968 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2010 17:16:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lennart Borgman , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 05 19:16:36 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh43X-0004xr-FQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:16:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45175 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh43W-0001mV-N4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:16:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59967 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh3ef-0004A9-PV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:50:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh3ee-0000Ll-Ep for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:50:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:61951) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh3ee-0000LW-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:50:52 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn10 with SMTP id 10so410787iwn.0 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:50:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n2s9pGzMx95z8fc46kZC5fKue40/sKgPl/TiiLHV5AQ=; b=mAf5Tx+rGBOv9rxQXZWA+atZ6L5hCVvDdr/TerygyCh2pLnFMJRXFC++i9tIYv4Rtm LQ0QGVpgsQoq5jVKn+3F1bgdksMCZmCfANducI1C/9hQp1hTS/h2/yyRUEd/bA3DcX/E yGRk+lgChTWRXsVfnNKZJYmDQllaTCP1z7oKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gdClakQtFxwrv6AFKs47H71t8sVYhrdPoM+KhcOcqZ94YQeX6vaHNO6dKA6+Uzxt2Q agNnw3FeQ5ciO5I+YMemoz3vrBaovVvLxZWwb0FBSdrGiHaXHpAKB8NnLKYvecJRF1h6 vrwJjf5+XcQ6afdB2QZYN0TQGtFYLk36Wkvok= Original-Received: by 10.231.177.40 with SMTP id bg40mr11820400ibb.150.1281000155283; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.162.4 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 02:22:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128304 Archived-At: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:39, Uday S Reddy wrote: > In that case, I would like to understand at least the key binding > aspects of this divergence. I don't think they are the main reason behind the fork, but I could be wron= g. > How do you think Lennart could have > changed the key bindings for the needs of W32 users? What are the specific key bindings needs for W32 users that standard Emacs does not support? We have CUA mode, and it's not hard to load a package to rebind whatever is necessary. AFAIK, Lennart has code to make using the Alt key as alt easier, but I'd like to know what are the specific troubles that require so, and how necessary it really is. Also, note that I've said "to make it appealing to Windows users", not "to make it a clone of every Windows application". Of course if you need that *everything* works in Emacs *exactly* as in Notepad, then use Notepad. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma