From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:22:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83lj6zz9o0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284942173 26377 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2010 00:22:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , drew.adams@oracle.com, miles@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 20 02:22:51 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxU9i-0008Qf-SG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:22:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxU9i-00059s-AH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:22:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40478 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxU9d-00059n-3f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxU9c-0007ql-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:22:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:42535) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxU9a-0007qV-Ue; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: by qwf7 with SMTP id 7so4379672qwf.0 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2rMHU2k6yKgmn3kH7YVX4y2LCXUzvSz8VfWyCDJqd6M=; b=W1DGNSwQ/aYnvwnbnp/L7B5Q6AT4ONaLdY9peWhKNCE7eJBFvhghRmBGDN8Vr5+1eN rSbRx5ftkRf0pwh8PJewOP/K+9ZKX3gpuhiczFilpsmWLAtezyHuVgLpsN6oWkEKjodJ BcIx1UjXGpn/zA4VBS9yU1Rdkfwq60WkZID48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eXklJrAZtnsMCkRR58KHdmd1GM2jYKlxocrHLQ1Cboan94SqKD2OBCKrKEl0gLssq+ IckaUDCOEUQdMXXo18s4z+PN/SDekw66r6qzvNlYxKWhTbQH4kWeHleLXafGYlzd+McB f/+P7L7Oag/XRgq75vYlW+IkZbcvBY39ObqK4= Original-Received: by 10.229.2.7 with SMTP id 7mr5297065qch.277.1284942161199; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.105.68 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:22:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130515 Archived-At: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks. =C2=A0But we're discussing here what to do with C-d:= for `delete' we > =C2=A0 =C2=A0already decided that it should delete an active region (by d= efault). > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Whether you agree with this `delete' behavior is irrelevant. > > It won't bother anyone for `delete' to delete the region. =C2=A0Making > `backspace' do so is the change that will bother lots of users. However a lot of other people also expect C-d to delete the visible region. I think we really need to get compatibility of this kind implemented. (I have some ideas for it, but I have a lack of time at the moment so I have preferred not to say much about it.)