From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What does Emacs on w32 know that grep can't figure out? Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 03:20:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285896348 1479 80.91.229.12 (1 Oct 2010 01:25:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 01:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 03:25:46 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1UNY-0007AP-47 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 03:25:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54248 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P1UNW-0004xV-TP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:25:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33394 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P1UNO-0004w5-Eu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:25:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P1UJa-0004lU-LR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:21:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:51241) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P1UJa-0004lH-IX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:21:34 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4877649iwn.0 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:21:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y4uSFp+rAy3TQAOvZxwF/AMJOHIrkpvJ4A2M9YP9ZTM=; b=aY/ACLtoY1NvTk5uRBDYtVmENwSYkPvadizYKdFJ85/85Zn/Qp6trYDr/rNr5NGtm5 F9Uz/eGWocP8mDc+zkfZATgZ9tbh1JRq8iwvcrziI3T8bPbMm5IdXuWRoOacg35AWhEA JRAzoV52T+ZOp0CiPZNmico9sRDKihgayDeOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nlOZqaj1exNV5PC8lAPujKHPyBEmZyxev3tDnOdZeNIv/aA66dcFvbXsiNJtWLNT1m IdhvaaJ0/txqe+eUEZJ/mjXjTmwjQ7oCQgQqT8At1EEMLnhYL5Nr/LDsO3hY9KrorfHZ ryM76CEvCIx6o0Nx/a4kvJ0U2cRrS6+mi46Vw= Original-Received: by 10.231.167.67 with SMTP id p3mr4790987iby.20.1285896093798; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.196.71 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:20:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131116 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 03:06, Lennart Borgman w= rote: > If the tool chain is broken then the tools that depends on it are also > broken. Aren't they? Oh, I wouldn't consider Emacs broken if I cannot grep utf-16 files from inside it. YMMV. > Yes, but that is a quite unfortunate state IMO. New users will just > say "ah, this tool is broken, let us try something else". And what will they use? =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma