From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Someting with Emacs visual-line-mode Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:16:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20100913102200.345d8dfa@126.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284455882 17915 80.91.229.12 (14 Sep 2010 09:18:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: PJ Weisberg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 14 11:18:01 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvReK-0000Gw-NW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:18:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47426 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OvReJ-0002Hq-Pl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:17:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58416 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OvRdb-0002Hj-BA for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvRdZ-0001lh-Po for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.216.169]:38920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvRdZ-0001lc-LH for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so2858461qyk.0 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 02:17:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mel6CObwjOUv3BNP0cPrvF1SPTh6ubrUKGEVR2UlK0g=; b=P0vtdC9JvgJjE/GpNPlo3cOyVWpqwOagQUVBMVo2HeSvbwWfiMIOVnNYmhljgWfZFb w2KfHUn99qG3PdSvqn65eYuEPF7Juus4z4ZtB1ENkTbGZUJlr1mZgJKt4z0X8Fuu1FCr v/PKeQ7xmBWgr6ma9YanLIt+0GEOhy59lQOVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=X2PSGOrgKUNtLBkpGrMKwiYl9ZKKHkGSoQaVKLbOirS6e4HF4FtOyyt3w7H4/lo5FQ D4DlDSTS+LbIxT1O4H2kUVliodM9sd060ycYQqESQNCUKfUBN3ssW5D3J9WVe6I7QNC/ acu2EyiRxh8YPzM7vLn+yS52WXqMHvPdU1XXA= Original-Received: by 10.229.245.1 with SMTP id ls1mr4208376qcb.112.1284455833289; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 02:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.20.68 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 02:16:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:74951 Archived-At: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:09 AM, PJ Weisberg wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:46 PM, suvayu ali = wrote: >> On 13 September 2010 17:43, Lennart Borgman = wrote: >>> I do not think he wanted visual line mode to be turned off. Why do you >>> say so? FanQing said the line should break, but that it should break >>> at the last Chinese character before the window boundary.. >> >> Isn't that the same behaviour as `truncate-lines' set to `nil'? > > The behavior you get with truncate-lines set to nil, word-wrap set to > nil, and visual-line-mode set to t is what I think he's looking for > with respect to Chinese characters. > > What he's really asking for is for Chinese characters to not "stick > together" like English (etc.) characters do when word-wrap is on. > That would take me by surprise if I had embedded a few Chinese > characters into some English text I was writing and Emacs broke the > line between them, because I'm not used to seeing words that are > "breakable" but not normally separated by a space. =C2=A0I don't know wha= t > the best way would be to handle that =C2=A0 I'm sure there are different > rules for different languages that I don't even know about, and all > word-wrap does not is look for the last tab or space. Does not this suggest that Chinese characters should be treated different than English characters? Again, please send a bug report.