From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:11:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278720779 4838 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2010 00:12:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "fplemma@gmail.com" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , "rms@gnu.org" , "joakim@verona.se" , christian.lynbech@tieto.com To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 10 02:12:57 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNgb-00073G-CB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:12:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51397 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXNga-0007LG-Fv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44596 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXNfI-0006dC-7m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNfH-0006Gb-76 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:11:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:33940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNfG-0006GT-Ub; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:11:31 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so3536888iwn.0 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:11:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=v/ZQ/E6dVo9bcgAZ6Apk+QCTOiLca+N6uu0IjrL0rIM=; b=QKz1NCsBfbBy+5KXFugGDuHLmkPgy9RS2hg+VuUS2CQ1h53fU3QQXheJ5yR0d/2Wkn ZWyyKDaUyfTTt4OfQRflklPxxPUqbbU77vqsHA+uDYOwUNQ48pekXE6s4n+Pp5yJvtiT JzqztcKISmzWqThj+Es6s4erck/fWkfTv4ySw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d2575bw5tlIpecjH5zRmy/Ao52Gd93Lxx1R8n3RflcpWwVxaR6p1AhKPZaZKe4L/Ya 4pyAy5q2SURGUDQxwZwqASRII8G/NPgeOsXMCL4IXPH4azaZ+bZj2OSkVdR3u641NeFn q1azQC2EVOK4t6Viy0NAHc/SCPwwvAjg9C8rs= Original-Received: by 10.231.39.134 with SMTP id g6mr10712104ibe.8.1278720689497; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.170.83 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126975 Archived-At: On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Juanma Barranquero wrot= e: > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 15:09, Lennart Borgman = wrote: > >> The reordering is done exactly to make emacsclient.c start Emacs when ne= eded. > > It's hard to believe that moving functions around is *exactly* what's > needed to add functionality. Believe whatever you want. Or look into it. You might even be right, I did this long ago. >> So I do not understand what you ask for. > > 1.- Move original emacsclient functions back to where they were. > 2.- Do a diff, which should result in a list of the *real differences* > between your emacsclient and the trunk's, instead of being a full file > diff like it is now because of your reordering. > 3.- Send the patch *and* a good ChangeLog, or some kind of explanation > of the changes and what they do (and how they work, if it is not > evident). > 4.- Wait for comments. > 5.- *Act* on those comments. > 6.- Repeat =C2=A03-5 until everybody is (more or less) satisfied with the= result. > 7. Commit your changes or ask for them to be committed. > > Isn't that difficult, really. All you need is the intention of doing > the work, instead of dumping your emacsclient and asking others to do > it for you... I have done the work. I simplified it to what it is now. If that is not accepted then just skip it.