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From: MON KEY <monkey@sandpframing.com>
To: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: 6390@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#6390: Should not regexp-quote quote newline?
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:09:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimiem0Hk5lOmIi1fDSWw0jJrn-iA-qfG6zd7CQ6@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilzshZqZPvpS9KIstOLIojxlptL_M1k2HbJ89v5@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Lennart Borgman
<lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sure. I object on the grounds that what you propose is madness.
>
> I can see no objection at all. What is it?
>

You've confirmed my suspicion ;)

The objection is that what you propose is madness, i.e lunacy!

It is absolutely NTRT to interpolate any such chars routed through the
elisp printer simply b/c you disagree with how an ASCII standard
character has been historically (mis)interpreted. Its the _users_
prerogative to dictate her intention here; it certainly isn't yours,
or Microsofts', or Emacs'.

IMHO it would be _insane_ to replace "\f" linefeed with "\t"

Evaluate these to see why:

 (progn
   (insert-char 12 1)
   (describe-char (1- (point))))

 (progn
   (insert-char 9 1)
   (describe-char (1- (point))))

Among other things, you may notice the inserted glyph `^L' which is used
throughout Emacs as the default value for indication of page boundaries.
e.g. `page-delimiter' and her buddy `forward-page'...

Not only are you asking to have the form-feed value replaced with an entirely
different _non-visible_ character but you are asking to fundamentally alter the
semantics from:
 "Occurences of this character indicate vertical movement of the
print-head at EOL"
to:
 "Occurences of this character indicate tabbed horizontal movement at EOL"

Blech! Why would you want to do something so silly?

Check out this history of the form-feed and (one of) its early
intended applications:

:SEE (URL `http://www.rfc-editor.org/EOLstory.txt')

:SEE-ALSO (URL `http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linefeed')

P.S. I've taken on faith that you aren't instead suggesting to replace
"\f" with the line tabulation char `^K' ASCII 11 e.g. (insert 11)
Which would make only slightly more sense than the folly you've proposed.

--
/s_P\





  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-11 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-10 14:42 bug#6390: Should not regexp-quote quote newline? Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10 15:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-06-10 15:02   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10 15:34     ` Drew Adams
2010-06-10 16:08     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-06-10 16:11       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10 16:22         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-06-10 16:46           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10 17:03             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-06-10 18:07               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10 23:11                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-11  0:44                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10 15:22 ` Drew Adams
2010-06-10 15:34   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10 16:28     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-10 16:47       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10 16:56     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-06-10 17:00       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-11  4:19 ` MON KEY
2010-06-11  4:43   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-11 20:09     ` MON KEY [this message]
2010-06-11 20:37       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-12  6:18         ` MON KEY
2010-06-12 13:28           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-14  3:00             ` MON KEY
2010-06-14  5:33               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-12  6:51         ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-06-12 13:37           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-07-09  5:30           ` Glenn Morris
2011-07-09 10:03             ` Lennart Borgman

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