From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize letters ISO-8859-1 with diacritic signs in emacs 23.2.1 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:22:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4D493388.2070801@ens2m.fr> <4D4AAEE7.9040509@ens2m.fr> <4D4AF8B2.6090108@ens2m.fr> <83oc6sbyum.fsf@gnu.org> <87hbckn4ph.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296772829 20206 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2011 22:40:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emmanuel Bigler , 7962@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sven Joachim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 03 23:40:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7qi-0005as-Da for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wkKUoXpXQRQT2FBHdYimkM7+V6gc8ypRFUagGHiiRLffUUpO8Sf8Wt4f+hYh6yGk8L 9b3V0OzhCo0/rWbVdMBL8Si77geuGXPopfKkNxj1Aor36GSiOdvraaXRZjTTbm7RSN3I D2PPjFG4DFOgZc7unfdXW3GFJXv3Vzs5wN1l8= Original-Received: by 10.213.32.143 with SMTP id c15mr14228498ebd.67.1296771771284; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:22:51 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.213.13.20 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:22:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87hbckn4ph.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:15:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:43896 Archived-At: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: >>>> >>>> However I am reluctant to switch to UTF-8 for all my texts in English, >>>> German, French, even Icelandic etc... i.e. Western European languages, >>>> the only ones I'll ever typeset, which are perfectly handled in >>>> unibyte iso-8859-1. >>> >>> You seem to assume that going multibyte requires that your files be >>> encoded in UTF-8. =C2=A0That simply isn't true. =C2=A0The files can con= tinue be >>> encoded in ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-15; Emacs will decode them into its >>> internal representation when you visit the file and encode it back >>> when you save it. =C2=A0You lose nothing. >> >> But does that require that you mark those files as coded in ISO-8859-1 e= tc? > > For reliability, yes. =C2=A0Otherwise Emacs cannot really know the encodi= ng > and has to guess if a byte with value 164 means =C2=A4 (ISO-8859-1) or = =E2=82=AC > (ISO-8859-15), for instance. =C2=A0Converting the files to UTF-8 solves t= his > ambiguity, of course. Is it sure that Emacs in the future will always do the same guess about encoding for files that have no explicit coding in them? If not then perhaps it would be good to add a function to emacs that helps users add comments about explicit coding to a bunch of files.