From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:01:40 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83lj6zz9o0.fsf@gnu.org> <87r5gp5hqv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285030939 28192 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2010 01:02:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 21 03:02:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxrFM-00038X-Vs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:02:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49547 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxrFJ-0004FT-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48081 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxrFD-0004FE-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxrFC-0004SR-Eu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:44196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxrFA-0004S3-Vr; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk2 with SMTP id 2so5501318qyk.0 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:02:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZPZW0vwuTZvjZgFAwejV4GI66+K1w5UhUvsvm5gsh+c=; b=X3kSOKi+eWoJxSBWoRXBP/VxNOtmqdgRThIlJiC2PugeZFPiCGCpEldHQwLXne2vdw 6/7U7yL+3PPmdqhj6daaL4MQffGsgWTw1HousCTWgtsgY5XDTgWfAUuIkaUVDVmvXe36 tLHoOr1bXZsgqVBzFVTMEO7kVV2kedhUqLxJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t5tm0p2/CZFxWwa2q9yRbMicyyNEguXA3OQLTJA2VM95Uv9ZRl1HoQ6cBZhJ7j0TAR OF7M695ffljsxsODf4tiD96iA/WdaGWgQ94NjXye1Uw5FqVQWbFi3AD9TxWhNIXpPkDr f5G9hGiy4/HlBY8mUnUtSYyT19kWEOekfOE94= Original-Received: by 10.229.185.137 with SMTP id co9mr6676602qcb.189.1285030920158; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.105.68 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:01:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130553 Archived-At: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> It won't bother anyone for `delete' to delete the region. = =C2=A0Making > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> `backspace' do so is the change that will bother lots of u= sers. > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0But it's also the only such change that really matters for > =C2=A0 =C2=A0newbie-friendless. > > I am not convinced it does. =C2=A0The case in which newbies would expect > Backspace to delete the region is after mouse-selecting it, > and it already does delete the region in that case. I think a newbie expect the visible region to be delete by backspace always (at least I think that is the case on w32). Why don't you think that?