From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What does Emacs on w32 know that grep can't figure out? Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 03:54:51 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87bp7d1o6k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83bp7dqcgu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mxqw28cv.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87mxqw4oup.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <83ocbcpqif.fsf@gnu.org> <83d3rrozyw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1286244328 17293 80.91.229.12 (5 Oct 2010 02:05:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 02:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 05 04:05:26 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P2wuD-0006EY-KI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 04:05:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48398 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P2wuD-0003is-35 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50635 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P2wqj-00024P-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:01:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P2wkh-0002Bv-3T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 21:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:61469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P2wkg-0002Bn-Tc; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 21:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so1118611iwn.0 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:55:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6HhCB9bRKv/q1n5ZizL0nxydpc6ZlWeKPvP4uH0x6yw=; b=rD2zfiUXGQf4+qN7V+jMbXKGKhwvSVNFfHZRKSabN3e+QDzXyXTME2jgOls3XA3eHU KnfYVdGgmM1v9larCMqXrcVvbU/4ofAV9I75SxPbbM11gnae5ClRUpzxlKe2tstCfASx S/rH4hG8NwPPhk/Ege9OqAw5joM54T0V6nVEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SdWRmtLr1ZxWjwQkeiIm2bthpPYGCLDha4T5GTjrBitPNMBS/2tIUaWzH0Xg/xk6Lz Tqm5PBXzO6yMVg9sZpGHBUoqL+ISt3AmF5x1yj5vYC+y4k0D/mZ1LZ8ATg7DmpW+G+Lj AUXUTBjcCdDruU8SEQMnkzawEijEW5b0nQg5k= Original-Received: by 10.231.174.206 with SMTP id u14mr11192275ibz.103.1286243731505; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.196.71 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 18:54:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131344 Archived-At: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 03:36, Lennart Borgman w= rote: > If we decide on this (which seems likely now), then should we not > change default file coding system to utf-8? Which coding-system variable are you referring to? buffer-file-coding-syste= m? The language environment (and coding system variables) should reflex, IMO, what the user is most likely to encounter. I personally do (set-language-environment "UTF-8") (set-coding-system-priority 'utf-16le-with-signature 'utf-16be-with-signa= ture) (setq file-name-coding-system 'windows-1252) in my .emacs, but I want to generate UTF-8 files. I think most Windows users will be happy with the current defaults. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma