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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: "fplemma@gmail.com" <fplemma@gmail.com>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	"rms@gnu.org" <rms@gnu.org>,
	"joakim@verona.se" <joakim@verona.se>,
	christian.lynbech@tieto.com
Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:28:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJ-n0e7Jz0DesKIv3gQZErdiTgc_ebuYIfWFRR@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSST_DcTVAIqXL4iDdSO7XuO49QkLMa3VxbcqP@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 02:11, Lennart Borgman
> <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Believe whatever you want. Or look into it. You might even be right, I
>> did this long ago.
>
> You seem to forget that I *did* (look into it) long ago. That's what
> I'm talking about.

I told you at that time how to do the merge. You seemed to believe it
could be done another way. Maybe you are right, but to me the way you
wanted to do it looked like much more work. I ran out of time.

>> I have done the work. I simplified it to what it is now. If that is
>> not accepted then just skip it.
>
> I'll be ready to "skip it" the day you're ready to stop accussing
> Emacs developers of ignoring your work every time you've got the
> opportunity.
>
> Perhaps you should be brave enough to accept that Emacs+EmacsW32 is a
> fork, because you're *not* interested in doing work to get most of
> these changes accepted back into mainstream Emacs.

I have told some times now that I am not interested in keeping the
patches. I have thrown away some because I do not have time for all
the merging.

I do not accuse you of anything. I am just telling how I see the
situation. Getting the thoughts behind the changes I suggest often
takes too much time - even if I write the first part of the patch.
Take for example the recent discussion about the display engine. There
was too many misunderstandings so in the end I thought it was best to
just drop it. Is someone is really interested I have left the
explanations already.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-10  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-08  5:31 Efforts to attract more users? Ken Hori
2010-07-08  7:44 ` joakim
2010-07-08 13:28   ` Adrian Robert
2010-07-08 14:26     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-08 14:53       ` Stuart Hacking
2010-07-09 21:46         ` Richard Stallman
2010-07-09 22:52           ` Christoph
2010-07-09 23:53             ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-10 14:51             ` Richard Stallman
2010-07-10 14:55               ` Christoph
2010-07-08 15:09       ` Teemu Likonen
2010-07-08 13:54   ` Stuart Hacking
2010-07-09  3:05   ` Richard Stallman
2010-07-09  3:24     ` Bernardo Barros
2010-07-09 15:01       ` Stephen Eilert
2010-07-09 20:25         ` Rolando Pereira
2010-07-09  7:26     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-09 11:02       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-09  7:31     ` christian.lynbech
2010-07-09 11:04       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-09 11:24         ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-09 11:41           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-09 12:58             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-09 13:09               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-09 16:09                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-09 16:42                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-09 17:05                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-09 17:07                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-09 17:24                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-09 17:29                         ` Drew Adams
2010-07-10  0:03                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-10 19:15                     ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-11  2:43                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-10  0:03                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-10  0:11                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-10  0:16                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-10  0:28                       ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2010-07-10 23:43                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-11  2:40                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-11  2:56                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-11  3:13                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-12  0:23                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-12  1:41                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-12  7:43                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-12  8:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-12 12:37                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-07-12 13:22                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-12  8:21                                 ` David Kastrup
2010-07-12  7:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-12  8:05                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-12  8:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-12  8:38                                   ` Deniz Dogan
2010-07-12  8:53                                     ` David Kastrup
2010-07-09  7:33     ` Emacs learning curve (was Re: Efforts to attract more users?) christian.lynbech
2010-07-09  7:43       ` Emacs learning curve Masatake YAMATO
2010-07-09 11:01     ` Efforts to attract more users? Lennart Borgman
2010-07-11  4:37       ` Miles Bader
2010-07-11 10:48         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-11 13:24           ` Miles Bader
2010-07-11 13:55             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-11 13:59               ` Miles Bader
2010-07-11 14:13                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-11 14:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-11 15:01                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-07-11 15:31                       ` Bernardo Barros
2010-07-11 17:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-11 21:25                         ` John Yates
2010-07-12  7:37                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-12 12:36                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-07-12 12:47                             ` Stephen Eilert
2010-07-12 16:01                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-12 17:25                                 ` Bernardo Barros
2010-07-12 17:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-13  1:33                                   ` Why not Qt4? (hi, Drew! was: Efforts to attract more users?) Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-13  2:37                                   ` Efforts to attract more users? Miles Bader
2010-07-13 13:51                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-07-13 13:56                                     ` Deniz Dogan
2010-07-13 15:07                                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-07-13 15:52                                         ` Deniz Dogan
2010-07-13 16:17                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-13 15:24                                     ` Bernardo Barros
2010-07-12  0:25                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-11 14:52                   ` Bernardo Barros
2010-07-11 15:49       ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-12  0:24         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-07-12  9:42       ` joakim
2010-07-09 12:05     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2010-07-09 12:23       ` Alex Ott
2010-07-09 14:33         ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-12  1:57           ` CEDET speed issues [was Re: Efforts to attract more users?] Eric M. Ludlam
2010-07-09 15:39         ` Efforts to attract more users? Leo
2010-07-10 19:05     ` Tom Tromey
2010-07-08 16:56 ` Drew Adams
2010-07-08 23:28 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-07-08 23:56   ` Fren Zeee
2010-07-09  0:22     ` Bernardo Barros
2010-08-02 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-02 13:32   ` Bernardo Barros
2010-08-02 20:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-02 20:30       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-08-02 20:39         ` Jay Belanger
2010-08-03  6:40       ` Andreas Röhler
2010-08-03  8:11         ` Stuart Hacking

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