From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: base Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:04:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20100822120642.GA1794@muc.de> <87bp8uzu9d.fsf@mithlond.arda> <871v9o7dmf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wrrg5rzg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r5ho5gyr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hbij6hib.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282677022 4193 80.91.229.12 (24 Aug 2010 19:10:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader , Leo , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129171 Archived-At: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 19:35, Stephen J. Turnbull wro= te: > Granted. =C2=A0However, they're real for *all* DVCSes. No, I don't think so. Perhaps Windows support on Bzr is not good, but at least you don't need to be afraid of being insulted when you have to report a bug. > ISTM that while the > Bazaar devs pay lip service to Windows issues, they don't go much > beyond that (and some issues like SSH configuration on Windows just > don't ever seem to go away). I agree Bzr's Windows support could be better, but at least there are regular updates and some attempt at fixing bugs. > It implies both. Thanks. > I find your opinion hard to understand, however, because in basic, > everyday usage git is *simpler* than bzr. =C2=A0You have essentially the > same number of commands, they do mostly the same things: init, clone > (missing in bzr), add, rm, mv (optional in git), commit, status, diff, > log, pull, push, branch, checkout (optional with different semantics > in bzr), reset (no single equivalent in bzr), merge: total 15 > commands. config, tag, remote, stash, reflog... But the complain is not about the number of commands. It's about the miriad options. "git help log" is a good example. Every time I have to use one of the non-obvious command options and I have to check the documentation I have a sudden urge of shooting someone. > It's true that specification of revisions in git is unfamiliar. =C2=A0But > both hg and bzr have been forced to add git notation by popular > demand. =C2=A0And I think it would be very odd for someone who's familiar > with operators like "nthcdr" (which is "~" in git revision notation) > to complain about it. Terseness is sometimes an advantage, sometimes no. A..B versus A...B. nuff = said. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma