Re: binding ibuffer to C-x C-b by default

[Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com>]

2010/10/8 Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com>:
> 2010/10/8 David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>:
>> Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> 2010/10/8 David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>:
>>>> Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> 2010/10/7 Dan Nicolaescu <dann@gnu.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was discussed briefly a few years ago and Stefan (and other
>>>>>> people) agreed with it: how about we map ibuffer to C-x C-b by default
>>>>>> in Emacs-24?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ibuffer is a superset of list-buffers, and it provides many things
>>>>>> that list-buffers does not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If a significant majority of experienced Emacs users prefer to use
>>>>> ibuffer instead of list-buffers (which is what I believe) what is the
>>>>> problem with making this change?
>>>>
>>>> Thinking like a suitor rather than a programmer.
>>>>
>>>> Making a choice between two different feature sets that both have
>>>> deficiencies is the wrong thing to do if we can instead create a version
>>>> that does not contain the particular weaknesses of either.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Binding C-x C-b only changes a key binding.
>>
>> And marriage only changes a soul binding.
>>
>>> This has nothing to do with modifying list-buffers or ibuffer, neither
>>> does it affect anyone with the intentions of doing that.
>>
>> You propose a divorce from C-x C-b with list-buffers, and a remarriage
>> with ibuffer.  Namely making a choice rather than an improvement to
>> either.
>>
>
> Don't dramatize the change of a key binding by comparing it to divorce
> and marriage.
>
> Nothing stops anyone from changing (or possibly even merging) ibuffer
> or buffer-menu if we change C-x C-b to ibuffer.
>
> It appears that this topic has been discussed back and forth for at
> least seven years already

In fact, I just found this from 2001:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2001-12/msg00546.html

So it seems that the intention back then was to obsolete buff-menu in
favor of ibuffer (and in doing so change C-x C-b to ibuffer, of
course). I'm not sure that this ever happened.

-- 
Deniz Dogan