From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Indexed search with grep-like output Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:09:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: <831v4wpcue.fsf@gnu.org> <83wrmone2h.fsf@gnu.org> <4D21614E.2020006@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294067376 9482 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2011 15:09:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 16:09:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZm2K-0001ek-O8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:09:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56709 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZm2K-0000kb-9E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:09:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44815 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZm2F-0000kE-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:09:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZm2E-0000oF-07 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:09:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:43671) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZm2D-0000o3-SG; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:09:21 -0500 Original-Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so6910151ewy.0 for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 07:09:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=4sQKFGGW5JpfNrQSbo/JLR8OW1HPrvt4AhijNrCsQu8=; b=acZMDfZ77vL1XTG/xnrcF/bZhyCOWsxU6ha9b1afH+JhNsthw9KFTY38qybhnwIbmc my1yjgtffAjfRiZxsbbh3XCFuAYfUdfOGlYcHSlqfSmR9ELFGAHzXbGeipR3C6jIhnIZ LYnzx5HfMOhGNEaZGqe+7w1OaO+9Szk7z5Dko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=w2Q4WY/Fprq8Aa5lyfD75rvNIR1axwAxU2VUiQ+Uq0bLUHKnuLHr6+eTEYDM5EL/yt mkfBe618NDt6HX2kDKa79lDD62iCzex4+gsmh9chxB9ftLANlKjEwUus+bdIhGjFbKfR b+EIQpYg+FKF1X4oX4cRAycXVoPpaPs7UQJ6E= Original-Received: by 10.213.29.16 with SMTP id o16mr6894121ebc.58.1294067360835; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 07:09:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.213.20.148 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:09:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134215 Archived-At: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Emacs has always been designed around the idea that you shouldn't need > proprietary code to use a feature, so his code can't be integrated until > it is made to also support Free alternatives. I have nothing against that. That is what I expects, but I also expect someone else to add the free alternatives of their choice. (I will help with that of course.) > And regardless, I find it to be an error of his to prefer > ease-of-installation over freedom. It is not an error. It is what I prefer. And I do not expect free tools to succeed unless they are easy to use. And I think I share that opinion with a lot of people who supports free software.