From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5074: Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 23:51:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274911054 19514 80.91.229.12 (26 May 2010 21:57:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5074@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 26 23:57:32 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHObU-0001hY-74 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 23:57:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OHObT-00076c-JV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 17:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56720 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OHObL-0006zg-06 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 17:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHObK-0003RO-22 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 17:57:22 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHObK-0003RJ-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 17:57:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHOX8-0003gb-8m; Wed, 26 May 2010 17:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5074 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 5074-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5074.127491072514152 (code B ref 5074); Wed, 26 May 2010 21:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5074) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 May 2010 21:52:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHOWD-0003gD-0L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 17:52:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gw0-f44.google.com ([74.125.83.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHOWA-0003fn-PF for 5074@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2010 17:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: by gwj15 with SMTP id 15so2457175gwj.3 for <5074@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 26 May 2010 14:51:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FEqvcUpv1KTFF8FgCXDfDCYfO6qeZ4o3F9huwhsnU5Q=; b=hJhXU2lb/bfSU5eqYlWZoMm+RYusjSq3/NtBL4bgfnP9MZ1EBrp1+AJe+jLYbMXb7s vM+tMc5qiOwx9Beyp96c2K7NGv3DP/8AmFxbHOpVs+UWwuQ4x8i/kHJRkx2fBijsJPF3 VPEuPHCQkxfI24aNULnrvgOK5/5d1bLUABxJo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DN53cYSOwAkOmi0la5Gr9xLuCn2Bx72FENDYEliQvpkz49yPZBOvUtLs+i7pkoY2GJ JrOFEIY0MH31K4jzY2e3hQSd3YNWQ8tq1tw6Naf9QcITlh8B+tF9qy7XDo+lcajoZHgh xT8+1rv7S4wtte9al1omVj5bJMssthx3XrcGE= Original-Received: by 10.101.132.15 with SMTP id j15mr11549730ann.124.1274910714295; Wed, 26 May 2010 14:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.177.20 with HTTP; Wed, 26 May 2010 14:51:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:53:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:37311 Archived-At: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Juanma Barranquero wro= te: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 20:20, Lennart Borgman > wrote: > >> I think it may be wrong closing this bug. You can not do anything with >> this information alone, but please do not hide it by just closing it. > > But this bug report has *no* useful information, other than the fact > that a non-reproducible crash happened perhaps during a call to > url-retrieve-synchronously. Or perhaps during redisplay. There's not > even a backtrace. It would be difficult to relate any possible fix to > this bug. Yes, sorry. I will try change my habit, always running Emacs under a debugg= er. >> There was just a new bug report about url-retrieve-synchronously (bug >> 6274). I suspect it can be related. > > Why? You reported a crash, #6274 talks about a temporary freeze. Because all information about the function may be related. A bad call to the system functions may result in a bad state resulting in a crash or a hang. But ... since it is on different platforms with different API:s you and Glenn are probably right here. There is probably no connection between 6274 and this bug report. However FYI I still have a lot of crashes/freezes. Emacs hangs and is difficult to kill from Windows Task Manager, but it does not loop. Seems to be low level. I suspect four sources at the moment: url related (most suspected for hangs), frame related (very suspected for crashes and a bit for hangs) and the current changes to the display code (a little bit suspected for crashes). And my own changes for frame handling (quite suspected, but they are very recent, last month only). I will try to get back traces. >> I also reported a hang in the same function in bug 5103 and another >> hang calling it in a timer in bug 5372. > > Well, then perhaps these two bugs are really related to #6274 (it's > difficult to say, because as usual your bug reports are pretty sparse, > to say the least). But in any case, how are they related to #5074? > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Juanma >