From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: `save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer'
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:59:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimAAA+FHcE5+f=AW-npk21=iDeLkV3RxKM9D9DC@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30E9F44998C7420AADC221F883D8808F@us.oracle.com>
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 20:56, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
> IMO, this warning has produced _far_ more confusion than it has eliminated.
That's bad, because it would be better if the warning eliminated
confusion too; but it is secondary, because its true purpose is to
eliminate subtle bugs, which Stefan already explained like twenty
times (soon he will be able to write a book à la Italo Calvino with
all this). So even if some not-really-understanding elisp programmer
just reacts to the warning and changes his code, he wil already reach
some benefit.
From my point of view, your arguments support fixing the wording, not
removing the warning.
> FWIW, I also agree with Andreas that a "warning" is for something serious. A
> warning is not the same thing as in informative message. A warning _warns_ you
> about potential danger/damage.
Curious. In computing terminology, I'd say an *error* is for something
serious. A warning informs you about a potential problem, and often
one that you're likely to miss by yourself. Just like this one.
IMHO, 0.02€, etc. etc.
Juanma
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[not found] <mailman.0.1299085819.4487.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-02 20:54 ` `save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer' Uday Reddy
2011-03-05 4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 19:57 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-11 1:07 ` Leo
2011-03-11 1:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11 8:52 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <mailman.25.1299833256.26376.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-11 9:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 11:09 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <mailman.10.1299841456.13496.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-11 11:38 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 15:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-12 8:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 19:00 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-12 19:56 ` Drew Adams
2011-03-12 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 22:20 ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 18:59 ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2011-03-14 21:17 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.6.1299959800.9013.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 3:00 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:22 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.0.1300040583.10860.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 1:04 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14 8:43 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.4.1299956141.9013.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 22:29 ` Tim X
2011-03-13 7:15 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-13 18:23 ` Drew Adams
2011-03-13 12:46 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-14 8:47 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.7.1300092490.2602.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 12:22 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14 14:20 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-14 17:36 ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 23:20 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-15 3:55 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.14.1300124226.2531.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 14:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 15:59 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.2.1300204800.1264.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 18:55 ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 14:18 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <mailman.5.1300111985.27831.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 14:54 ` Uday Reddy
[not found] ` <mailman.5.1300000253.31664.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 14:16 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:25 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.2.1300040743.10860.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 20:48 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14 0:31 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.4.1300066631.25374.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 14:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-13 2:11 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:26 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.5.1299920357.7270.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 9:34 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.10.1299924724.7270.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 10:42 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 15:17 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-12 15:25 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-13 2:40 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-14 17:26 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <mailman.11.1300123292.2531.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 14:47 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-15 15:19 ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-15 16:00 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.6.1300202904.14512.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:42 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.3.1300204850.1264.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 18:56 ` Drew Adams
2011-03-15 21:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 19:02 ` Jason Earl
2011-03-15 20:55 ` Drew Adams
2011-03-16 4:31 ` rusi
2011-03-16 8:11 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-17 3:46 ` rusi
2011-03-17 7:10 ` rusi
2011-03-17 8:29 ` Antoine Levitt
[not found] ` <mailman.1.1300215374.6982.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-16 12:05 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-12 22:18 ` Tim X
2011-03-11 23:06 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-10 22:40 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 2:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-01 3:20 ` rusi
2011-04-01 12:39 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-02 17:12 Andreas Röhler
2011-03-03 4:58 ` Le Wang
[not found] ` <mailman.7.1299128292.20537.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 15:05 ` Uday Reddy
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2009-12-20 19:19 Roland Winkler
2009-12-21 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-21 16:23 ` David Kastrup
2009-12-22 12:51 ` martin rudalics
2009-12-23 0:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-23 9:07 ` David Kastrup
2009-12-24 4:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-24 9:03 ` David Kastrup
2009-12-29 16:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-04 9:09 ` Drew Adams
2010-01-04 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 20:17 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-06 0:02 ` Drew Adams
2010-01-06 4:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-06 8:07 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-06 8:57 ` Drew Adams
2010-01-10 4:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 8:12 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-10 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-11 8:24 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-11 9:21 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-11 16:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 17:03 ` Drew Adams
2010-01-10 4:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 15:58 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-01-10 18:05 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-10 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2010-01-10 19:44 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-12-24 14:04 ` Roland Winkler
2010-01-04 17:08 ` Davis Herring
2010-01-04 17:34 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-04 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-18 9:20 Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-18 15:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-18 15:58 ` Thierry Volpiatto
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