From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Van Holder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6637: 24.0.50; kill ring being seriously polluted Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:32:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87oce986yu.fsf@leeloo.anubex.internal> <87mxts970k.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87bpa7zagi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279382566 18296 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2010 16:02:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6637@debbugs.gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 17 18:02:42 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa9qX-0003uh-Om for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rcPkZ+rNwphDhzj/jTOSQ6PA2JHJduwb2S28MgRVpViCQmp82gh+Mft9jxbvHSeRO9 mG886ByFiZu3aqJCGuWsbUgbaClbFz5WqisqfEuo5mZVD4UpXPxt3vfiMx0VERfLkKSx rmNeLzzrxh2gjCdNeE5TKkNzUoXVspH5qVz3w= Original-Received: by 10.204.178.146 with SMTP id bm18mr2026543bkb.99.1279380756676; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.204.65.77 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:32:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87bpa7zagi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:33:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:38633 Archived-At: On 16 July 2010 17:57, Chong Yidong wrote: > Tim Van Holder writes: > >> 1) emacs -Q >> 2) Holding the shift key, press the up arrow until you're at the top >> of the buffer >> 3) Release the shift key and press the down arrow until you're back at >> the bottom of the buffer >> 4) Press C-y >> >> This yanks in the comment lines, even though I at no point requested a >> kill or copy-as-kill. > > Go to any X application (firefox, etc) with a text field. > Holding shift, press the arrow keys and select some text. > Release shift, and press another down arrow to deselect it. > > In Emacs 23 (in the absence of latest changes): > > Run `emacs -Q'. > C-y > > The text you selected is yanked into the buffer. =C2=A0This is because th= e > other X application put your selected text in the primary selection. > How is the behavior of Emacs' new shift selection different from the > other X application's shift selection? I generally spend all my time in Emacs, so I don't know/care very much about the behaviour of other X applications (especially with the way I'm running Emacs these days, it tends to be the only X app running). All I know is I have been selecting text in Emacs for a long time and it has never appeared in the kill ring (maybe because of pc-selection-mode, I don't know). I do expect to be able to yank text copied from other applications, and I do expect to be able to paste stuff elsewhere that I've copied/killed in Emacs; and this has so far always been the case. The following is something I do a lot as part of code editing: 1) copy/kill something 2) yank the copied/kill text 3) select certain portions and replace them as needed for that copy 4) go back to step 2) if needed The new behaviour interferes with this (and I don't see how it can do anything but interfere when pc-selection-mode is active). Look, if most people are happy with the new behaviour then fine, make it the default. But I'd still want a customizable option to disable it (or for it to be automatically disabled when pc-selection-mode is active). Given that there is a pc-selection-mode, perhaps this new behaviour could be made an x-selection-mode, giving people the choice of which behaviour they want.