From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noah Lavine Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <10954D02-E217-49F3-8824-757DA34074AB@gmail.com> <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278774093 26305 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2010 15:01:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: yamato@redhat.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 10 17:01:30 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXbYX-00023F-Tm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:01:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58293 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXbYX-0008QG-Id for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36212 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXbYS-0008QB-7N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXbYQ-0002sP-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:64141) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXbYQ-0002sH-L2; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so4111675iwn.0 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:01:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=py5DJPahlXP/i1ZOn53YudnNadw/0+ePyfrB7U5e1Es=; b=oAkf/BAtUbPNLmkQmjXkzCmB3+i/V0boa1kftzPDjNOy5CMG3alQRlf2//4CY+K0fZ BA1fVpa0Y9PxnPrF28L+BofU5CIspRSoNJ3ZooazdHWKbDt5Qjno0XVhL4AB1eRRbiYf KyApm9HcliBgsMoCGxS4uaj3V7GM2vkG1j+vE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O3rvg6ooTSKsMQr/VJpe4mDEcSfpLQKM4Vt9046s2gI5hC0jPEBmp6rzxEktEqGE+o fb8ZUJm0TuR88ViwWKBDaxbIczyUBbY3EgbuYRb848OMl6G2Z/nnVFVhvvvjSjj1iohl ODoclDZhhEJxShUhOcZaQpnOP5UU9xkaOq5gU= Original-Received: by 10.231.172.83 with SMTP id k19mr4243309ibz.114.1278774081422; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.37.133 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:01:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126994 Archived-At: Yes, I didn't say what I meant there, I think. I also meant things like this: http://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/effective-emacs, which is a combination of a list of useful commands and some advice on how to configure Emacs. I must admit that I haven't read the manual all the way through. If I had, perhaps I would feel differently, but I think I still wouldn't be able to remember everything in the manual until I had used Emacs for a while. Noah On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Noah Lavine >> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:12:51 -0400 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> The big issue, I think, is discovering what Emacs can do. I know that >> Emacs is *potentially* extremely powerful, but I don't know enough to >> make use of this power. The Emacs Starter Kit showed me some things, and >> I found a few more through different web pages, but I think I still >> don't know very much. I don't know where I would find Emacs features >> that are useful for me. > > Doesn't the manual help discovering what Emacs can do? =A0Why do you > need to search the Internet when you have most of the stuff right > under your fingertips? >