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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 6388@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#6388: Should not match data be set on misses?
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:35:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTilCx6Pnn4laYATdhrEU4hw1g2XGFdKZTkVSJnvc@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmxv32gee.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> I'm closing this bug report because the ELisp manual explicitly
>> documents the current behavior:
>
>>       Every successful search sets the match data.  Therefore, you should
>>    query the match data immediately after searching, before calling any
>>    other function that might perform another search.  Alternatively, you
>>    may save and restore the match data (*note Saving Match Data::) around
>>    the call to functions that could perform another search.
>
>>       A search which fails may or may not alter the match data.  In the
>>    past, a failing search did not do this, but we may change it in the
>>    future.  So don't try to rely on the value of the match data after a
>>    failing search.
>
>> Patches welcome to "change this in the future" (unless Stefan or
>> Yidong object to such a change).
>
> Yes, there was a long discussion about this a few years ago.

Sorry, forgot.

> The main
> obstacle to such a change are:
> - it breaks some code.

Aka it makes some bugs (bad assumptions) surface. That is not always bad.

> - it is not tremendously useful.

But it is probably what a user/programmer normally expects.

> - it is difficult to detect code that relies on the current behavior
>  (so it's difficult to output a warning to help in the migration).
> The current behavior is not tremendously useful either, of course, but
> it has the advantage of being what we've used for many years.

Yes, that is true. However the current behavior probably wastes a lot
of time for those unaware of it.





  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-10 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-10  0:42 bug#6388: Should not match data be set on misses? Lennart Borgman
2010-06-10  2:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-06-10 13:04   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-10 13:35     ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2010-06-10 18:57       ` Stefan Monnier

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