Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p

[Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:49:25 +0200
>> Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, dak@gnu.org, cloos@jhcloos.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> >> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:09:44 +0200
>> >> Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>,
>> >>       emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:29 PM, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > In Openoffice.org, the arrow keys move logically.
>> >>
>> >> Seems like a mistake to me.
>> >
>> > What is the mistake?  What do you think James described by the above
>> > sentence?
>>
>> I read it as meaning that the arrow keys does not always move
>> visually. (I.e. right arrow keys could move to the left.)
>
> Only when the bidirectional context changes, e.g. you traverse a R2L
> text in a L2R paragraph.

This does not seem good to me.

>> Are you saying that the right arrow key etc will always move visually
>> to the right?
>
> No.  Cursor motion works in the logical order, not in the visual
> order.

I think the default should be that cursor keys (and keys like page
up/down) should move visually.

If someone want them to move logically that is ok and it should be
easy to fix if there are commands that move logically to rebind to.