From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What does Emacs on w32 know that grep can't figure out? Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 02:56:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87bp7d1o6k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83bp7dqcgu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mxqw28cv.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87mxqw4oup.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <83ocbcpqif.fsf@gnu.org> <83d3rrozyw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1286240221 5676 80.91.229.12 (5 Oct 2010 00:57:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 00:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 05 02:56:59 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P2vpz-0003Ws-1y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 02:56:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32926 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P2vpy-00021v-5c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:56:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45400 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P2vps-00021p-D3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P2vpq-0000fB-9U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:56:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:46937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P2vpq-0000f6-6U; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:56:50 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so1040102iwn.0 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:56:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vvoMV6vVsamlIAFlgGdXLcR6kSWOL93QvbdrtGC2+Yo=; b=afc6LWqBg4pOQiKugXlTRU5hbGDr0JWEwaL7sgtQBsrSkYdOXZEo2twQpTdEfolBfK TpXOxyPecLQALgUMYF5ajHmiVXQFwy9cwKgG8q7m9ROmdKX1/Cf73TkzXo0fR81fapKh 4Cq8QAUlRY8vf4E/9THuSQyh9qqV9D4uLhuZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RgDEZU5uTXmZ8Y1/x5ahqH7J/CauiyDOO696F8nokArBiE6snbcpjcgIfmPrmWDmHh pzGPbYCKdQf9eJv/OZASqxjFjFDKR8sbRIrIEzGZj6fHd9F5OsMa82ysfSOMfzRoEA1x iogze1bHIZli8GAjEmJmO/2j1y03kqMTJYJRI= Original-Received: by 10.231.35.202 with SMTP id q10mr11090225ibd.138.1286240208597; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.196.71 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 17:56:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131339 Archived-At: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:46, Lennart Borgman w= rote: > - I would expect Emacs users to believe thata search from within Emacs > would autodetect coding system since Emacs does it. (Eli disagrees on > this.) I agree with him, BTW. > What can we do? The options I can see are: C.- Do nothing, and leave to the user the task of finding a tool that can grep utf-16. D.- Do nothing, and leave to the user the task of converting the utf-16 files to another coding, as utf-16 is the internal format of 32-bit Windows APIs, but it is rarely found in files, even on Windows. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma