From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 17:29:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4C5B5C39.9090104@gnu.org> <4C5B66DD.2060901@gnu.org> <4C5BA62A.4060002@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281112839 6042 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2010 16:40:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 18:40:37 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhPy8-0005Qn-VV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:40:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55773 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhPy7-0004ee-87 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:40:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43978 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhPoE-0007Xv-8I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:30:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOrS-0000rq-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:56872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOrS-0000rf-RW; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:29:30 -0400 Original-Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4so5865767qwk.0 for ; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:29:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MK/q9YWZtLN+fu+8mpO8ffcjJ/WjntJb/FyZ2BIA60A=; b=jCDMxtNObOeHsa/zSTe+L17gz1FazCtyTfEbKLo7gg0MrkdrD5EkBsG9VZP5AiHl8J 9UwO2tKItCfawh1Y2O8hs1h+3QcoSNT+185HUvjzEJuzlrLiUNOeSap3LpSeOVGHA/5+ qDT9Fd3ZDQODrwsKE7Q/L8jiguS1NNOQ29S0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pnuSaU5zfmaJioJHoiNihuOMfOxYoVrr5d3N2BxGEaHxLVBnQyPVGwXA54TtpU72Zb TDXhA/S8vnF8dINV/t/yfsDiTFEMNDmaBnbBg3WY4dODJn5xSdQtepgZAMOyG1h8Lmcd q4Re0pzNhmMqBve2fJxCNie3wUxE3pu+71Q9M= Original-Received: by 10.229.1.88 with SMTP id 24mr4797128qce.269.1281108570175; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.235.8 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:29:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128385 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Jason Rumney wrote: >> On 06/08/2010 11:11, Lennart Borgman wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Lennart Borgman >>> =C2=A0wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> made this work as Jason suggested. I.e. it allows the use of Alt-TAB >>>> as M-TAB on w32. (The back draw is that you then can not switch to >>>> other applications using Alt-TAB when in Emacs.) >>>> >>>> Other application will still respond the normal way to Alt-TAB. >>>> >>> >>> If this should be usable at all then there must be a way to get into >>> the normal Alt-TAB behavior from withing Emacs. >>> >> >> Does the following still work after Alt-TAB is overridden? >> >> (w32-send-sys-command #xf040) >> >> This can be bound to whatever event the user wants. > > Yes, it minimizes Emacs. Unfortunately it still seems to have focus so > you can not use Alt-TAB after that either. > Incorrect. The frame is not minimized, but put at the bottom of the w32 window list. It still has input focus though (both mouse and keyboard). Using #xf020 (minimize) works ok.