From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: base Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:39:27 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20100822120642.GA1794@muc.de> <87bp8uzu9d.fsf@mithlond.arda> <871v9o7dmf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wrrg5rzg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r5ho5gyr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282657229 10194 80.91.229.12 (24 Aug 2010 13:40:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Leo , Miles Bader To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 24 15:40:26 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ontjl-0003gU-Ax for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:40:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47193 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ontjk-0006qs-KZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:40:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50279 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ontja-0006pE-2p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:40:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OntjY-0002UO-NF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:49542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OntjT-0002TT-PO; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so6290236iwn.0 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:40:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kwqDg/pWjgQrBk5nnHjn8BCCvwd8hbdrnNj+u+W38mQ=; b=fwmt3ED0fenzrukL3oc4o2MMu8/J7a5VwOalsa6o1bC+q34FDKh/Vxj/sqjWqGpOAi TV9TL9NDqn1nCmKgcv8+2c7MZ0GXsPA2A65fSoLK2Y4iwPBZdiPElDlRbKGxDQq8wn3V l752K7aXMaU5xoKKhIiLeKUKuzdeVUZBJu31M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FthTEO3q2V6JgsAVDGW3180LZFA4d7SpQcDow5lvTdKU5x7KZGdC4Cy0zLlSM9ydcI KqgtRa+soD6m/ENbVHxUB2hgWK7DvO1whu5URRo0+ECBV9rQYZFiJt3KI+VDR8rlKJgS sdZO1VmuEtAOPwVEHO1lPpSmBMM+gVVCBxRV8= Original-Received: by 10.231.14.140 with SMTP id g12mr3061678iba.84.1282657207116; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.151.132 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:39:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r5ho5gyr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129134 Archived-At: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 14:32, Stephen J. Turnbull wro= te: > (except maybe Eli because of the Windows issues) The "Windows issues" are quite real. Basically, there's no support at all. You practically cannot go to ask about a problem with the Windows port unless you're ready to fix it yourself (which would be fine, except that we're developing Emacs, not git); otherwise the probability of getting a harsh rebuke is almost 100%. And I frankly wouldn't be the least surprised if someday the people involved in the port jus simply walked away (which they are entirely in their right to do, of course, I hasten to add). So Bzr, with all its problems, at least has some compromise of supporting Windows users, while on git it seems like we're barely tolerated :-) > but the UI badmouthing kept the discussion going > long enough for other candidates to get serious consideration. My English isn't good enoug to know whether "badmouthing" implies falsehood or bad intention. That the UI is bad is IMHO entirely true. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma