From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:05:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <10954D02-E217-49F3-8824-757DA34074AB@gmail.com> <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> <83pqyva8ms.fsf@gnu.org> <81A760E619C64426AEA8EF70A3A8A783@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278957989 32648 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2010 18:06:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ams@gnu.org, levelhalom@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 12 20:06:26 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OYNOb-0000XC-Av for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:06:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33908 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OYNOa-0002Bc-DZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:06:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54257 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OYNOR-00029I-Ti for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OYNOQ-0001Hi-9P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:42712) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OYNOQ-0001HW-1P; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:06:14 -0400 Original-Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so1029060ewy.0 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:06:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t+IHGEIfAWQU0BAOIaAJ0tySUk2Q48h0WnUlPOgs+VM=; b=xpGQNFX+nfGbhGCjexHsrJkOe3ivcJLT68IwIf6IHZv1yOv1RViseBfr64MvivQGnD sPGWb4Bxdzimx8g/kt4EGSceckO4KyHpZpas5VC1L8OqJqFa10o3+Txh7d5dBMcSyWcs mtQn2Mnq6aQ67yyLX/ixepNhB0+6ygummLhAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aQztAYig8UTnxAagYQtClhSUGd5Oveu3nOKG573R0JLS9E8IrrTnZZb1u2W1tnuOtd M3316wvsfSREirufaPGQrxQysh88f+DAKm5hjmMqRcsHB07p8dm3q5YDuIyljfgDLVts 7jyxc6hpj4rcpT2978ym/q+3VtTJ7elxs8uKA= Original-Received: by 10.213.23.7 with SMTP id p7mr10250587ebb.15.1278957973083; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.213.15.132 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:05:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <81A760E619C64426AEA8EF70A3A8A783@us.oracle.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127117 Archived-At: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > > Analogy (not really the same thing, but it is suggestive): =C2=A0Remember= those > experiments where people put on special glasses that flip their vision > vertically - everything looks upside down. =C2=A0In a relatively short ti= me their > brains adapt completely, so they actually see everything rightside up. Maybe that is what happens to old time Emacs users ... ;-) (Actually I believed it took fourteen days rather than five days to accommodate to that but I can't find my book on that now.) Probably something similar is true about motor skills too though I am not sure. However there will still be the burden of keeping track of where you are at the same time so you can switch your behavior according to that. Whether such burdens are always negative is another thing. It might be brain training instead. However for new users I think it is an unnecessary trouble.