From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7700: 24.0.50; C-y binding withing Isearch mode Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20101223171434.GA3971@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293276209 10408 80.91.229.12 (25 Dec 2010 11:23:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 11:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7700@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 25 12:23:24 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWSDb-0005ez-Kh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:23:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44510 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PWSDa-0002Ca-TV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:23:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51374 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PWSDQ-0002Am-0b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:23:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PWSDP-0000ov-0l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:23:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47957) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PWSDO-0000oo-SZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:23:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWRzi-00010X-Fn; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 11:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7700 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7700-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7700.12932753003816 (code B ref 7700); Sat, 25 Dec 2010 11:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7700) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2010 11:08:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWRz2-0000zV-75 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:08:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.161.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWRz0-0000zJ-Hh for 7700@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:08:19 -0500 Original-Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so3667518gxk.3 for <7700@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 03:15:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=20pMwIsKjaNhfqEK5ATskxMTPz9MOQkXwfiwWA3qB8Q=; b=gi0BQtODaSwcSjqQNjQDZ9jjRdb9nA40ZeqSiPy9cvWxBPxWS3a+W2bAqZqSxWkjZ+ rHDmCf8Xb8xHQaIki1blrbnIMbHX8xG6CdSDr0TmG1A+ZGIt0plfkbKcYPKjhFq2MIE9 Oqv3bWaDW5AUeMu4B7jqd9sdROV8HaBzaJ10M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fd70vfj1w9MiLYg/FrKs7Ig0iUYCur366556CPOj4MXfadm9QdWQWcSP5Nj4cDVGb2 UvAAnmEBv5GPANs1wjVQulY5s25FiythSiMiXKUKNSWRodoMX7Nnvk/p6XlxM9KUSfeH 4DfOf/4F2PtZys1ZyWNQT8RHzfQf42GqcYPYc= Original-Received: by 10.91.51.22 with SMTP id d22mr1744628agk.175.1293275700589; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 03:15:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.90.227.16 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 03:15:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:09:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42839 Archived-At: On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 05:06, Stefan Monnier wr= ote: >> Not much, provided that the key was required only one time. I >> think would be good to have that key as a switch to turn "grabbing >> mode" on/off. > > But then means that the equivalent to C-y wouldn't be " C-e" but > " C-e ", which is becoming significantly > more burdensome. =A0We're slowly getting to the point where M-e becomes > a worthy contender. =A0Maybe it's OK, but I was thinking of something mor= e > lightweight that would only accept one command so as to avoid needing an > additional "exit" key. > Indeed. I take back that suggestion. >>> I suggest instead that any standard forward movement command while in >>> isearch forward mode should select the text to grab WITHOUT any >>> prefix key. > > That might be a good choice, but: > - we lack experimental evidence for that. > - it would probably be too big a change to have that as a default behavio= r. > IMHO, that proposal would make text grabbing in Isearch (a) More powerful (you could use every movement command to grab text), and (b) easier/simpler (you already know the movement commands). The only drawback I can see is to give up the possibility of exit Isearch mode with a movement command, but IMO, this loss is insignificant compared with the benefits. --=20 Dani Moncayo