From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:50:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> <87hbj8qvd9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iq3k68ye.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874of466rj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pqxsbrie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281365465 5646 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2010 14:51:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uday S Reddy , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 16:51:03 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiTgs-0008NS-Lz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:51:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36727 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiTgr-0006qc-GA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:51:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54114 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiTgm-0006qX-S7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:50:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiTgk-0004rX-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:50:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:41576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiTgk-0004rF-QV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:50:54 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk34 with SMTP id 34so8956565qyk.0 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=e7uubkJ7nZyDs/6d7Rr845Y3C8dMq7M1YBg2EvshX3c=; b=OFUP1w5Pqt/GkddyatKM4z4E1y7vlV0/aNGITeVgWlG3CX653nPvnid2CLZSH9BvIu 1mFFw04jDcXzZicjbX6RIBS/LpZtktyXa4gex0YKGiKI2N6LpODIKzs2/V47vW/r758D Z+ieKey2xx0edgQOVps6aw+uUFSbQSqwB1hsw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=N+hX1YMTnCDZ6eeQ7ycQPk65K1/ZtD0Uis+5WbWjYE+P4n58yqFvwaHq7L51qFN+Gu 8OYuxAm7FoTvAM4R1kMQEOooeWaerZM8MvHAlr7JRrU1JyjrUpllZqXLAan/Q377wbXV MNhgKWCtXEhS3hgcOfAckRDDLB8nY7Pmw1KLc= Original-Received: by 10.224.3.3 with SMTP id 3mr8769417qal.33.1281365453389; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.54.80 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 07:50:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87pqxsbrie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128479 Archived-At: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Chong Yidong wrote: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> I really think you know: >> >> - Alt-TAB is very important, at least on w32. It switches application >> (or rather application level window). >> - Alt+Letter (or Alt and then Letter) is used to open menus. > > Again, how is this different from other platforms? I think you know the other platforms better. But one important thing to notice is that on w32 there is one window manager (with just small variations relevant here). This means that most people on w32 expects the common standards to work, especially those above. (I.e. if they are keyboard users and I guess those interested in Emacs are that.) What is unclear to you in this respect? I have not seen anything that I would regard as seriously doubt here of what I wrote above.