From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:57:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> <87hbj8qvd9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iq3k68ye.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874of466rj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pqxsbrie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <19556.28233.750000.798692@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19557.2279.703000.707743@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4E5480A100044AD58D82F16054CA3CF9@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281711507 27341 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2010 14:58:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uday S Reddy , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juanma Barranquero To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 13 16:58:24 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjviB-0007Jq-CN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:58:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46170 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjviA-0008BP-LX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37202 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ojvhz-00089B-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ojvhy-00070D-7a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:47460) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ojvhy-000700-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:10 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk34 with SMTP id 34so3226931qyk.0 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:58:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3VA3JBxcVrnhEEQHK/5RuyYPX/M69YJNmS3Fo7QvExY=; b=jx8iFbrZa5C/tZ5qU996+CrGD092G4QNn/INwEJj5e9q2HYHpBcXmMJt4ZffsE8x4b AmcmnKK7fJpjsj5KXhk/Mv28bqKPoCxeX+K1XJRHC1U0CKjgyPajbhSqAGcZsqwizZjk nWCR6jzCXxC8uO4Yn4waCXp9JcmHHe/NwGTkY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n8cwjqITFSpgEVOmKiSc+E+x1FYijT31o5sTd97ieFzArBLua6+jDrPcppB3haUz1E becCFXLZnWgBAzw6g45FUSNk91mc/lOZggSn0H6AG2Q9x4xO6PcgCrWYSFlGQu3j6sdJ +e6vHQTuufnQTFgHTNZselp0ZVvI7dZ2Sd7Ec= Original-Received: by 10.229.141.65 with SMTP id l1mr1311583qcu.166.1281711489278; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.54.80 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:57:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E5480A100044AD58D82F16054CA3CF9@us.oracle.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128607 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > > I would even guess that most Windows users never use the ALT key in a > Windows-specific way (except for CONTROL-ALT-DELETE) and never use the Wi= ndow > key at all. =C2=A0For one thing, most are not programmers (another guess)= , and most > interact with Windows using the mouse most of the time, not the keyboard.= =C2=A0And > my guess is that _very_ few (proportionally) users of Windows use menu > accelerators. Here is a lesson from MS on using MS Word: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/work-with-the-keyboard-RZ006078= 589.aspx?section=3D9 It mentions explicitly Alt+Letter.