From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stuart Hacking Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 09:16:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87lj8nsndb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <19545.14451.62000.682223@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19545.19472.187000.199606@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19545.20656.500000.91025@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19545.24079.734000.989637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87zkx1rdec.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281023584 20920 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2010 15:53:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 05 17:53:01 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh2jN-00060G-Iz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:52:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58313 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh2jD-0001hU-Ne for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:51:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45740 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh2Vn-0008PM-4U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:37:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh2Vm-0005Jq-7J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:37:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:53821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh2Vm-0005Jd-57 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so6041641vws.0 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:37:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qBHjQvjWTvS2TKTBOsMLOEtjMkJzuBOsFQA7squpwpw=; b=OizRUp8GL8a0fOQrc4q50UKhqeBDJNS6+6DOFooBK0UeSfFlObZo2FqMPiOMIbpeOM Qrh6H4CcPjcVUNWisf/hyXKNUd6c3QPrtVv2atL8bm5wxbY3ExWHXoeX7METO/c0ku3Z cuxKxva5go6Cu6/aoKxx2WtANz9WTbtC/+gyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XGtsIFk/3sYlyATYy2mFIXSRh4xMbMgqF4RHTIzmeicSOp+fkhknAGXYIVfbre3gsJ 0THKE3cXvM6B02dORvr5HrdVGthVD+owdKIAYc+2Hyp2O+NimfqBL9zbqujDxjMycgoN +6mXoNnTYYB+CYp6pSnSOsVq27niEJ1HhZQP0= Original-Received: by 10.220.171.211 with SMTP id i19mr6977896vcz.112.1280996187235; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 01:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.220.199.73 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 01:16:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zkx1rdec.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128289 Archived-At: On 5 August 2010 03:39, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Yes. =C2=A0But UI internationalization is a solved problem. > > Docstrings are a solved problem, by gettext. =C2=A0Even translating them = is > a solved problem, there are several projects which will help, and it > can be done incrementally. > > Ditto Info files and the like. > I wasn't aware of this, thanks for the reading suggestions. :) > Yes, there is a big demand for localization. =C2=A0Most Japanese and > Chinese programmers speak English very poorly, and read it only with a > fair amount of effort. =C2=A0Even a surprisingly large number of Indians > have some trouble with English. =C2=A0If Uday Reddy is right that many > users means many recruits, well, there are probably 50 million > potential users Emacs could reach with better localization. > I'd say that makes it more than worthwhile.