Links break when you archive; what are work arounds?

Links break when you archive; what are work arounds?

[Emin.shopper Martinian.shopper]

Dear Experts,

I really like org-mode and am starting to use it more and more to
track my notes, todos, agenda, etc. One thing I am confused about is
that when I make a link to FOO and then archive FOO, the link no
longer works. I guess I was hoping that org-mode would be smart enough
to adjust links or look in the archive file but maybe that is too
complicated.

Is there a suggested work-around to preserve links when you archive
something? Alternatively, maybe I'm not using archive properly. My
general mode of operation is to have a file with my master to do list
and another file for my daily plan (with a separate node for each
day). In each day's node, I link to the master to-do list. Then when I
finish a task in the master list, I archive it (which breaks the
link). I would appreciate pointers to better modes of operation.

Thanks,
-Emin

Re: Links break when you archive; what are work arounds?

[Bernt Hansen]

"Emin.shopper Martinian.shopper" <emin.shopper@gmail.com> writes:

> Dear Experts,
>
> I really like org-mode and am starting to use it more and more to
> track my notes, todos, agenda, etc. One thing I am confused about is
> that when I make a link to FOO and then archive FOO, the link no
> longer works. I guess I was hoping that org-mode would be smart enough
> to adjust links or look in the archive file but maybe that is too
> complicated.
>
> Is there a suggested work-around to preserve links when you archive
> something? Alternatively, maybe I'm not using archive properly. My
> general mode of operation is to have a file with my master to do list
> and another file for my daily plan (with a separate node for each
> day). In each day's node, I link to the master to-do list. Then when I
> finish a task in the master list, I archive it (which breaks the
> link). I would appreciate pointers to better modes of operation.
>
> Thanks,
> -Emin

This works for me when I use id links.

I created two tasks

,----[ todo.org ]
| * Test task
| * TODO Test target
`----

Then linked test task to test target by doing C-c l on '* Test target'
and copying the link into the body of '* Test Task' with C-c C-l

This gives me this

,----[ todo.org ]
| * Test link
|   [[id:c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af][Test target]]
| * TODO Test target
|   :PROPERTIES:
|   :ID:       c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af
|   :END:
`----

Then I archive the Test Target

,----[ todo.org_archive ]
| * TODO Test target
|   :PROPERTIES:
|   :ID:       c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af
|   :ARCHIVE_TIME: 2010-05-13 Thu 10:07
|   :ARCHIVE_FILE: ~/git/org/todo.org
|   :ARCHIVE_CATEGORY: todo
|   :ARCHIVE_TODO: TODO
|   :ARCHIVE_ITAGS: HOME
|   :END:
`----

Now following the link from todo.org still works for me.

HTH,
Bernt

Re: Links break when you archive; what are work arounds?

[Emin.shopper Martinian.shopper]

Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. But how do you use ID links? I
see an option for descriptive links and literal links but not id
links. I have org-mode version 6.34c, is that too old?

Thanks,
-Emin

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
> "Emin.shopper Martinian.shopper" <emin.shopper@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Dear Experts,
>>
>> I really like org-mode and am starting to use it more and more to
>> track my notes, todos, agenda, etc. One thing I am confused about is
>> that when I make a link to FOO and then archive FOO, the link no
>> longer works. I guess I was hoping that org-mode would be smart enough
>> to adjust links or look in the archive file but maybe that is too
>> complicated.
>>
>> Is there a suggested work-around to preserve links when you archive
>> something? Alternatively, maybe I'm not using archive properly. My
>> general mode of operation is to have a file with my master to do list
>> and another file for my daily plan (with a separate node for each
>> day). In each day's node, I link to the master to-do list. Then when I
>> finish a task in the master list, I archive it (which breaks the
>> link). I would appreciate pointers to better modes of operation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Emin
>
> This works for me when I use id links.
>
> I created two tasks
>
> ,----[ todo.org ]
> | * Test task
> | * TODO Test target
> `----
>
> Then linked test task to test target by doing C-c l on '* Test target'
> and copying the link into the body of '* Test Task' with C-c C-l
>
> This gives me this
>
> ,----[ todo.org ]
> | * Test link
> |   [[id:c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af][Test target]]
> | * TODO Test target
> |   :PROPERTIES:
> |   :ID:       c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af
> |   :END:
> `----
>
> Then I archive the Test Target
>
> ,----[ todo.org_archive ]
> | * TODO Test target
> |   :PROPERTIES:
> |   :ID:       c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af
> |   :ARCHIVE_TIME: 2010-05-13 Thu 10:07
> |   :ARCHIVE_FILE: ~/git/org/todo.org
> |   :ARCHIVE_CATEGORY: todo
> |   :ARCHIVE_TODO: TODO
> |   :ARCHIVE_ITAGS: HOME
> |   :END:
> `----
>
> Now following the link from todo.org still works for me.
>
> HTH,
> Bernt
>

Re: Links break when you archive; what are work arounds?

[Bernt Hansen]

"Emin.shopper Martinian.shopper" <emin.shopper@gmail.com> writes:

> Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. But how do you use ID links? I
> see an option for descriptive links and literal links but not id
> links. I have org-mode version 6.34c, is that too old?

I'm not sure if that is too old but I don't think so.  You need to
customize the variable 'org-modules' and enable org-id which generates
globally unique ids.

This automatically adds the property id entry when you create a link for
a task using 'org-id-get-create'

-Bernt

>
> Thanks,
> -Emin
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
>> This works for me when I use id links.
>>
>> I created two tasks
>>
>> ,----[ todo.org ]
>> | * Test task
>> | * TODO Test target
>> `----
>>
>> Then linked test task to test target by doing C-c l on '* Test target'
>> and copying the link into the body of '* Test Task' with C-c C-l
>>
>> This gives me this
>>
>> ,----[ todo.org ]
>> | * Test link
>> |   [[id:c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af][Test target]]
>> | * TODO Test target
>> |   :PROPERTIES:
>> |   :ID:       c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af
>> |   :END:
>> `----

Re: Links break when you archive; what are work arounds?

[Emin.shopper Martinian.shopper]

That works great. Thanks!

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
> "Emin.shopper Martinian.shopper" <emin.shopper@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. But how do you use ID links? I
>> see an option for descriptive links and literal links but not id
>> links. I have org-mode version 6.34c, is that too old?
>
> I'm not sure if that is too old but I don't think so.  You need to
> customize the variable 'org-modules' and enable org-id which generates
> globally unique ids.
>
> This automatically adds the property id entry when you create a link for
> a task using 'org-id-get-create'
>
> -Bernt
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Emin
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
>>> This works for me when I use id links.
>>>
>>> I created two tasks
>>>
>>> ,----[ todo.org ]
>>> | * Test task
>>> | * TODO Test target
>>> `----
>>>
>>> Then linked test task to test target by doing C-c l on '* Test target'
>>> and copying the link into the body of '* Test Task' with C-c C-l
>>>
>>> This gives me this
>>>
>>> ,----[ todo.org ]
>>> | * Test link
>>> |   [[id:c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af][Test target]]
>>> | * TODO Test target
>>> |   :PROPERTIES:
>>> |   :ID:       c517f8d3-9cf3-4d86-b92d-b544874ef0af
>>> |   :END:
>>> `----
>
>