From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7004: 23.2; In fullscreen mode, the echo area takes too much vertical space Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:01:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87aagueyp0.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87mxktjxon.fsf@member.fsf.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300399650 4471 80.91.229.12 (17 Mar 2011 22:07:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7004@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 17 23:07:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0LLo-0006Fv-Hg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:07:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37449 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q0LLm-0001tY-PC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:07:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43245 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q0LLb-0001kO-Df for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:07:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0LLQ-0003iI-Sg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54809) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0LLQ-0003iE-Pl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0LGb-0003Vw-K1; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:02:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7004 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7004-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7004.130039930513486 (code B ref 7004); Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:02:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7004) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Mar 2011 22:01:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0LGK-0003VT-JY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:01:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yi0-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0LGJ-0003VH-Ee for 7004@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:01:43 -0400 Original-Received: by yic13 with SMTP id 13so1346216yic.3 for <7004@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:01:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9oS20OBpLgGZ94cZE71NG7yOB0nGf2gfUU6PScQEnQc=; b=x0JJPgUMEIgeSN/EorueYb0dfv3cJWw8d5SakhcHjush/Zu8vkrKjmcUbs+n/HFrJc gYgJdsDH0uIM90W5S8nrk3hTmHta7sNmMAx2ERr4nuP1eXCCdzXMUT6x3BIUI49QY/iy ihogougvve0Zp/oQ5Wrm8FBQIc8cTr6CNCdn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=r3YTG8f6UHhWZcNFOj1BdqcwHwz20FDqc1+3iXrHY71ACVe6k7Hxdrvuqbh57wiLq+ fW4KXcSWX0a5jwus7sm7GiGCPmT+63gh4fSDS4WxfnmlroKVWtJTd2GxZFUtYYwK5eRI houiG6+5jhJSPkA6n3SUEFZAFkzhz5GFGPHpk= Original-Received: by 10.91.32.6 with SMTP id k6mr369445agj.123.1300399297844; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.90.73.18 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:01:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87mxktjxon.fsf@member.fsf.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:02:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:45129 Archived-At: Hi, Tassilo On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 21:31, Tassilo Horn wrote: > > Window manager hints are nothing special about emacs: > I didn't say the contrary. What I wanted to say is that (with my approach) Emacs would have no need to tell the window manager the size it wants. Conversely, Emacs would ask to the window manager the size of the "client area", in order to organize the layout and draw the frame inside it. > > I don't see what would be the benefit of your approach. =A0What's the > value of being able to see half or quarter lines/columns? > Well, my approach is intended especially for situations in which the GWindow is maximized or fullscreen. But maybe doesn't make much sense when the GWindow has an arbitrary size. In such case, maybe it would be better to resize a bit the GWindow (via hints, as you said), so that no partial lines/columns are shown. I don't feel very strongly about it. Indeed, sometimes I think that a simpler solution would be to distribute the remnant space evenly between top/bottom and left/right extremes of the "client area", so that the emacs frame appears centered inside it. Bye, -- Dani Moncayo