From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Deniz Dogan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:52:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4C94E03D.8090002@gmail.com> <87fwx699pc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83tylmyclx.fsf@gnu.org> <4C961787.3090907@gmail.com> <87sk13wqxb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285059353 27127 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2010 08:55:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 21 10:55:51 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oxydj-00012C-9A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:55:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oxydi-0004IC-S3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:55:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52184 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxybJ-00036y-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:53:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxybA-00009S-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:53:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:54836) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oxyb9-00009J-U2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:53:12 -0400 Original-Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so5499668vws.0 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:53:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=OHRoqrekaOeq3Tr5WD4m5/HYMhZF8VhsYHbyh4r+j4Y=; b=dKR0Hwd394xqdgWZ25+wOkGYmmK7kMd6X4MpVJBwlyohkl5AEaYORudMLUgxxSNxaz IJ6KmfoDvxmWJc7M479T3tNLjsIKk59e82FHVUwWRm6k9dpap0syLAtEZGLVfdIGJgxz J03/OxvMHqE8tVc+OezVfLaUhJ8hQj9W5LaZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=Qn3/7qOGJsHAARnryCT0jiH+qIpqAJqyWUqVukYrAGy8Sirbv30BT9mSSfBZOwZbWq EEA2Y5rgiMrOMHboZdqQLq+c9oIgBTJs4pXC2gcSckpIDQWA/LaQBD76jAXoluZ/klBs UtMOmFp0SAatJwp0oteNScdlzhrHMIOw3iBfc= Original-Received: by 10.220.62.199 with SMTP id y7mr5076451vch.191.1285059191105; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.220.202.70 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:52:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130567 Archived-At: 2010/9/21 Leo : > On 2010-09-21 07:29 +0100, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> More scientifically, if you have an active region, then you can have >> "modal" behavior: deletion operations can (implicitly) act on the >> region instead of on specific text units, insertion operations can >> (implicitly) substitute new text for the region, and so on. Without >> active regions, you can't have this kind of modal behavior. > > Yeah, that is useful. Some prime keys can be freed for better things, > for example, C-x C-l and C-x C-u. > I'm not sure what you mean. I use C-x C-l and C-x C-u on a nearly daily basis. If M-l and M-u executed downcase-region and upcase-region if the region was active, I'd be happy to use that instead. -- Deniz Dogan