From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bikeshedding go! Why is unbound? Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87sjx7z7w4.fsf@telefonica.net> <83pqsbmf6j.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4ijz07h.fsf@telefonica.net> <2460D97DEA4047B3B9DF92C4A80981EF@us.oracle.com> <57BF13882D6E494286547F293FE9D03B@us.oracle.com> <87lj2pfo81.fsf@wanadoo.es> <12B9F2D504D54D759E43154D6084E77D@us.oracle.com> <97AE4C97E1674829AC290276E7A205E4@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294998338 22734 80.91.229.12 (14 Jan 2011 09:45:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= , Stuart Hacking , Deniz Dogan , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Drew Adams To: Giorgos Keramidas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 14 10:45:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdgDn-0006gU-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:45:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47007 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PdgDm-0002Am-Qk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:45:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51693 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PdgC2-0001Rx-1l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:43:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdgC0-0006lT-KK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:43:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ey0-f169.google.com ([209.85.215.169]:47743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdgC0-0006lE-Ee for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:43:36 -0500 Original-Received: by eyh6 with SMTP id 6so1276861eyh.0 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:43:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nHVWANv5u5ESKXGx0tuK9PtjqTJdzBnWVGrHlSyTUJM=; b=BXNmgwWB5HagskOy0YKihZrLWsMCaKMCSyHifrHgXUFjyqpngz3Y6z46zPXC71URy8 0vLhTYxx67GgDnxgvqIJ/Gd2ucuBOIiJB2+zfesFPuAyTXAc7WaAsJ6oRrQeeM5Fv/pQ uZKjfzqwpA568c6FpRrhnmNwgFwjnbuApGfdw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VZF5hRcqNT8Ny/j+KCF3FSEK3ymHfbrqUc1DNasjB7ajKxqz3Q4rPhOLXS1pGg6xJU gtlz+4Le+3jhXADnLI0IV11F/YpJGpf5/5BXRqHLvrWa+pb56WPz5AHL1oez0AfCfnPs tnc4DCEBTtYAoA76L5OKmprfW0p8KRsbL/gyQ= Original-Received: by 10.213.10.75 with SMTP id o11mr557890ebo.71.1294998215307; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:43:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.213.20.148 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:43:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134529 Archived-At: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > We don't have to look very far into the future for this, or to very > exotic window managers. =C2=A0My current window manager is 'awesome', and= its > key bindings are *all* tunable through Lua code. Interesting, but probably not mainstream. Rather prepackaging seems to be t= hat. > I also don't see why Emacs should start binding or or > any other key some window manager _may_ bind. Isn't the problem the reverse? Emacs is currently (at least on w32) by default binding Alt+F4 (but not using it) which prevents the window manager from doing its default action (and also presents bad info to the user).