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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Avoiding slowdown in trunk development
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:54:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Lw7yb2RjSJAjPUp4LWkqkdiOEaFCG1ARzUH2D@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D48594C.3070900@cs.ucla.edu>

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
>
> But that's not the case here.  The special needs of the Windows port
> are not a good reason to slow down mainline development.

Every platform has it special needs. There is no running Emacs without
platform dependent parts.


> In that case, perhaps all that's needed is a minor adjustment in
> expectations.  When Emacs's platform-independent parts are being
> changed, Windows developers can continue to expect Emacs to build.
> When the platform-dependent parts change, they can expect builds to
> fail temporarily, until someone who's versed in Windows adjusts the
> Windows build procedure.  This approach is quite common in other
> projects, and it works for Emacs as well.

After reading this I am quite sure we need a policy for changes that
are known to break some commonly used platform. My suggestion is
(again) using a separate branch.

I can't see any solid reason in your arguments not to have a separate
branch for such changes. Maybe I am wrong.

You have said that it takes you extra time to have such a branch and
also that it takes a lot of time to do the merges. I have a hard time
to understand that so I ask you:

- What are the cost of an extra branch? Is there something that could
make this cost less?

- Why do you think that the merge will be difficult? I expect it to be
rather few changes at the locations where you are changing things. Is
not that your expectation too?

I got a lot of patches and some of them are unfortunately in parts
where things are changed and that causes me a lot of trouble
sometimes. However that trouble is less if I am able to merge more
often. With your suggestions I would be able to merge and build less
often so your suggestions would really cause at least me trouble.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-01 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-30 23:43 gnulib strftime imported into Emacs Paul Eggert
2011-01-31  4:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31  8:02   ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-31  9:44     ` joakim
2011-01-31  9:59       ` Miles Bader
2011-01-31 10:16         ` joakim
2011-01-31 10:31           ` Miles Bader
2011-01-31 11:27       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 11:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 14:30       ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-31 14:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 19:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 22:19       ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-31 22:29         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-31 23:57           ` Paul Eggert
2011-02-01  0:15             ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-01  0:24               ` Paul Eggert
2011-02-01  0:34                 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-01  4:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-01  7:08           ` Paul Eggert
2011-02-01  8:58             ` Avoiding slowdown in trunk development (was: gnulib strftime imported into Emacs) Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-01 19:04               ` Avoiding slowdown in trunk development Paul Eggert
2011-02-01 19:54                 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2011-02-01 19:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-02 16:52                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-01-31 11:17     ` gnulib strftime imported into Emacs Lennart Borgman
2011-01-31 11:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 11:52         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-31 13:01           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 13:17             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-01-31 14:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 14:54                 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-01-31 15:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 13:18             ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-31 14:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 19:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 11:32     ` Andy Moreton
2011-01-31 19:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 16:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 20:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 20:42       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-31 23:25   ` Paul Eggert
2011-02-01  4:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-01  6:25       ` Paul Eggert
2011-02-01  8:32         ` Eli Zaretskii

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