From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7700: 24.0.50; C-y binding withing Isearch mode Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 21:09:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20101223171434.GA3971@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293308601 21690 80.91.229.12 (25 Dec 2010 20:23:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7700@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 25 21:23:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWae4-0002cm-Sw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 21:23:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40766 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PWae4-00048y-4h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=xkZMaFYvy+K9wg3P/u0KJLohYmrgfRdvKeVhP9sFsMmrI/yOYEdLudlTvbUfYz5Czv Sg5xH1PWZzU/pgToYXw4zMQCfQ7v+I1GCn1lV0tcIJnePfEukyZs4rojeK2NQnd0eylc uJv/LpCXFssmQAodIODPeeZKI4ONr1UgGAL1U= Original-Received: by 10.213.112.146 with SMTP id w18mr8624979ebp.84.1293307788915; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:09:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.213.20.148 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:09:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:04:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42855 Archived-At: On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>>> I suggest instead that any standard forward movement command while in >>>>> isearch forward mode should select the text to grab WITHOUT any >>>>> prefix key. >>> That might be a good choice, but: >>> - we lack experimental evidence for that. >>> - it would probably be too big a change to have that as a default behavior. >> IMHO, that proposal would make text grabbing in Isearch (a) More >> powerful (you could use every movement command to grab text), and (b) >> easier/simpler (you already know the movement commands). > > Compared to the use of a prefix, there is an important difference: the > prefix tells isearch that the next command is a movement command, so it > can be used with *any* command (and can lead to surprises if the command > is not a movement command), whereas in the absence of a prefix, isearch > would need to know which commands are "movement commands", and this > knowledge would always tend to be partial, so it will fail with > some commands. Forgot to mention that. There is same problem with extending the selected region. cua-mode solves this by attaching properties to movement commands. I think that is a good and flexible solution (though there could perhaps be custom support for it etc).