From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 00:55:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281048939 14836 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2010 22:55:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 22:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 00:55:37 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh9Lc-0003jS-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:55:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39391 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh9Lc-0003uM-8L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:55:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52876 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh9LU-0003sS-VE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:55:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh9LT-0002oM-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:34610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh9LT-0002oE-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:55:27 -0400 Original-Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4so5133706qwk.0 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NuyCtZ0Pt//nOpDPcrozeKCSw7Jqjcnlc1eRvsssblQ=; b=SNbLY1qyjRuI4CiYE4tIQzXgdigx3sjykXpOa4cFSpP6pH9zT68VtuBlSowhuAYX6p 5I2Rh51Q5nG23ELtDiFte2a2IPSGkuSDiWDGXVUwqgT35qgERdzz4MMJVzfh91JRwB5I 0JJN8IFUmXCQNs/pzk8DwN6VILjbnr4vEMPHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uDTfAWjkubXLpf+QyiAzNPBx9cIb06+MWj13Gvb6zxcnbpDh5EP5aLQiYGIli+mRV0 wQViJooXSnnKXZHkAL0mODGUinOWNUabIjPSi7iQKstw0a3Nk2el1Ml8UqWKp3ZHBDOw sTOGbrftVWrgBcdBffD8FJf1YZpr1tuMRlogY= Original-Received: by 10.229.52.8 with SMTP id f8mr3990805qcg.286.1281048926353; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.9.84 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:55:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128327 Archived-At: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Uday S Reddy wro= te: > On 8/5/2010 9:33 PM, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: > >>> I can momentarily depress Alt to activate the menubar. >> >> Nope. Have you some setting in .emacs for that? It doesn't work with >> emacs -Q (nor I'll appreciate that behavior.) > > Good guess! I was wondering the whole afternoon. =C2=A0Setting > w32-pass-alt-to-system to t does the trick. > > The manual says: > > Emacs compiled as a native Windows application normally turns off the > Windows feature that tapping the key invokes the Windows menu. The > reason is that the serves as in Emacs. When using Emacs, use= rs > often press the key temporarily and then change their minds; if th= is > has the effect of bringing up the Windows menu, it alters the meaning of > subsequent commands. Many users find this frustrating. > > You can re-enable Windows' default handling of tapping the key by > setting w32-pass-alt-to-system to a non-nil value. This does not work when sticky keys are enabled. It does however in my patched Emacs. (Starting from "emacs -Q" and just setting w32-pass-alt-to-system to t.)