From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stuart Hacking Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:17:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19542.42188.177000.850266@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280747872 23059 80.91.229.12 (2 Aug 2010 11:17:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 02 13:17:51 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oft1j-0003Wv-4s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:17:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52979 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oft1i-0000Sh-Cb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:17:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50714 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oft1b-0000QG-CA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:17:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oft1Z-0005bp-U7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:17:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:50804) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oft1Z-0005bk-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:17:41 -0400 Original-Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4so1653880qwk.0 for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:17:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z/6V4zgXEFRXgQp1kDgxM0Xr7uHoXlLp7R3+VLZJBDE=; b=GCZO0G/IkmZHfTOepyfy9c8DcMRJSCczjYTPGfSUeWWEOUfhxGQ0z7D8crlfKHDg0H lmu2m573YHh0LfhI0W07JPTMs6gwvAH94cjh2V0YppPhbNyhrGPshKdpo4jcxnQumEwZ kvYN0tEq+NEG4jBj7X2OXwFYnol+L+8568DHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bEbZkrUspD2SBMhVX+AWFFdpwTKAhUmQ/gBqn1XfFUFmUOHurNSizINRLA++cJ2I/j bGIEQHsNGR/IIK+Zb3GYyDatctPc0c3qWtvkIOJB3TVbHaORFLk/F4awbHT+ldbwWban FuGGJwEzYxsYmigb9ZAXNP/Sfep9JZ1Fgwg5E= Original-Received: by 10.224.11.6 with SMTP id r6mr908283qar.210.1280747860968; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.220.203.3 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 04:17:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19542.42188.177000.850266@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128099 Archived-At: On 2 August 2010 11:58, Uday S Reddy wrote: > Stuart Hacking writes: > >> To me, this sounds a lot like personal preference. I already have an >> emacs-lisp file full of global and mode specific keybindings and >> another with some convenience defaliases. These make sense for the way >> I work, but I'm sure they would be completely inappropriate for >> certain other users. > > Excellent. =C2=A0The only "personal" thing I see about it is that you mig= ht > have picked aliases based on personal preference. =C2=A0But there is no > reason why the concept of giving such aliases is personal. =C2=A0That is = a > generally useful idea. Then Emacs already provides this feature, right? If I don't like a keybinding or command name I can modify/alias them. Furthermore, I can do this only for a specific mode. > So, I suppose you will let dired-mode do all its self-righteous key > bindings and then use a hook to overwrite all of them with your own > key bindings? =C2=A0I think I am beginning to like this > software-as-the-enemy principle! Emacs has a set of default keybindings which can be modified to suit the taste of the user. Where is the issue here? (Some software that I use will not let me redefine key bindings at all.) Is the solution to distribute a version of emacs with no keybindings set? := ) --Stuart