From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11454: 24.1.50; `list-buffers-refresh', `Buffer-menu-buffer+size-width' Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 07:49:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87vck19afc.fsf@gnu.org><877B41D90D8D4BB5998F2C69190EF9C3@us.oracle.com> <87likxxykj.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336836582 9254 80.91.229.3 (12 May 2012 15:29:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11454@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 12 17:29:42 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1STEGK-0005db-M1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 17:29:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45178 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1STEGJ-0007Kn-LW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 11:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1STDeo-0000C3-CR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1STDem-0004bt-Kc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:50:53 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56331) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1STDem-0004bi-Hn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:50:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1STDew-0002Ql-Bc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 14:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11454 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11454-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11454.13368342219295 (code B ref 11454); Sat, 12 May 2012 14:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11454) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2012 14:50:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1STDeG-0002Pq-5e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:50:21 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:40598) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1STDdu-0002Ou-8w for 11454@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:50:17 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q4CEnd1E000378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 12 May 2012 14:49:40 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4CEncIx003975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 12 May 2012 14:49:38 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q4CEnbrF021302; Sat, 12 May 2012 09:49:38 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.219.5) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 12 May 2012 07:49:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87likxxykj.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac0wS6J2OgZSSZKNSHeVCup9ZZmkxgAAi//Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:59962 Archived-At: > > Here's what I would suggest: Respect a user's customizations and, in > > priority, customizations of the new options over > > customization of the old option. > > Absolutely not; that way lies madness. Apparently you do not distinguish deprecation from desupport. > As far as possible, outside of Customize only the value of the > variable should have any meaning. What does that mean? Who said anything to the contrary? The suggestion was only to respect user customizations. And for `B-m-b+s-w', to respect it only during the deprecation period, i.e., until it is desupported. > I amended the docstring of `B-m-b+s-w' to explicitly describe the > current behavior. Why bother? You've effectively desupported it.