From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: gutter region on both sides of screen Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:52:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87hbvjzwr1.fsf@fh-trier.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252083253 12766 80.91.229.12 (4 Sep 2009 16:54:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:54:13 +0000 (UTC) To: "'J. David Boyd'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 04 18:54:06 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mjc30-0000dL-LF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:54:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50799 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mjc30-0004GY-73 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mjc2B-0004DQ-Dy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mjc27-0004Cb-T8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37820 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mjc27-0004CY-PT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet11.oracle.com ([148.87.113.123]:42019 helo=rgminet11.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mjc27-0005h4-Ba for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n84GrWGv014288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:53:34 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt003.oracle.com (abhmt003.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n84GqxK7006058; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:52:59 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.190.74) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:52:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcoterINuBduDp40QuqPATqrOg+ECAABFTgw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt003.oracle.com [141.146.116.12] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4AA145EA.0205:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:67875 Archived-At: > >> Hmm, I'm using emacs 21.3.1, which has 'fringe', but no > >> 'fringe-mode'. Any ideas how to turn it off there? Emacs 21 introduced fringe as a feature, but AFAIK provided no way to turn it off. This is a good example of how not to add a new feature. ;-) In Emacs 21, there is no function or variable with `fringe' in its name, and I know of no function or variable that can be used to remove the fringe. You can customize the face `fringe', to (for example) make its background color the same as the frame's background color - that will make the fringe seem to disappear, at least: `M-x customize-face RET fringe RET'. The best suggestion, if it's feasible for you, is to upgrade to a more recent Emacs release. Emacs 22 is quite stable. Emacs 23 was just released recently. Starting with Emacs 22, it is easy to wear no fringe. ;-)