From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Michael Sperber <sperber@deinprogramm.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:31:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <A707345D-BFD9-4191-B861-23FEAAA800B9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <y9ld3xy6qcq.fsf@deinprogramm.de>
On Apr 17, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Michael Sperber wrote:
>
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> If you object to such a development, please step into this
>> discussion.
>
> I do - I'm an avoid org-mode user, an XEmacs maintainer. and I'd be
> happy to help support XEmacs, if that would help change your mind.
Hi Michael,
how nice to get a reaction after all (you are the first).
First let me say that I have been a big XEmacs user for many
years. One of my bigger packages (IDLWAVE) was mostly developed
under XEmacs. I did start using XEmacs at a time when it was
clearly the better System.
However, I have recently more and more the feeling how having to
cater for several Emacs versions is a drag. The time I can
devote to this project (Org-mode) is becoming less, not more.
And I have to keep up with a system that generates 40 mailing
list mails a day, and not infrequently 10 commits on a single day.
I need to streamline, not to waste time. My impression is that
Emacs right now has so much more momentum, and keeping the
compatibility code seems unnecessary. I have written and
maintained compatible code for all my packages over 2 decades.
but I am not sure it makes sense anymore.
My feeling was also that the interest in the XEmacs side for
Org-mode is low. To my knowledge there is no Org-mode package for
XEmacs, and the number of user on the mailing list seems to be very
limited.
So let me start with a question: Is XEmacs still alive, innovative?
There has been no major release (it seems to me) for a very long time.
It was my feeling that the XEmacs project is on its way to a slow death.
I may be wrong about this.
You propose to help. One way to go would be to continue a branch
based on Org-mode 6.35, and to merge any new stuff into that branch.
So a dedicated XEmacs-related person could keep such an XEmacs.
In my test branch where I remove compatibility code (not only
XEmacs, but also Emacs 21, and I'd love to ditch support for
Emacs 22 - even though I cannot do that just yet), quite some code
has changed, and I am not sure how easy it would be to keep
a compatibility branch up to date.
I am interested in a discussion, but I am not sure where it will lead.
- Carsten
>
> --
> Cheers =8-} Mike
> Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla
>
>
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- Carsten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-17 20:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-14 8:15 Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 10:26 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 10:27 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 12:19 ` Matt Lundin
2010-04-16 16:41 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 13:03 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-04-16 13:13 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-16 14:39 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 14:42 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-16 14:42 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 19:15 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-16 22:02 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 13:32 ` Rémi Vanicat
2010-04-16 13:56 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-04-16 13:07 ` Jan Böcker
2010-04-16 13:47 ` Günter Kolousek
2010-04-17 15:39 ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-17 20:31 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-04-18 8:22 ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-18 14:03 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-19 11:00 ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-19 11:19 ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-19 15:51 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-19 15:54 ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-19 15:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-19 15:59 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-07 7:51 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-07 8:30 ` Michael Sperber
2010-05-07 9:21 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-23 15:50 ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-23 19:03 ` Carsten Dominik
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