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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"'Richard Stallman'" <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Loading souce Elisp faster
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:36:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A692530FE7AC4100957119E17F5C2B98@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvip5gtomr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> I think the breakage would be reasonably limited, so I'd be
> willing to take this risk,

_You_ would not be taking any risk for third-party code that needs to work with
multiple Emacs versions.  You would be making others jump through hoops.

They would likely need to split a file that now works across versions into two
files, one that works only prior to your gratuitous change and the other that
works only after it.

That kind of condional test is something that we should do in software: (if X Y
Z).  We should not be making programmers duplicate and modify files to
accommodate encoding/version differences.

> but I'd rather avoid having to go 
> to the end of the file looking for a coding: cookie.

Do whatever you need to do to find the cookie.  Demand that the cookie be in the
first line, if you want.  No big deal.

But please do use a cookie (some kind of explicit declaration that is tolerated
by older Emacs versions).  Please do not make things hard for 3rd-party code
that works cross-version.




  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-25 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-25  1:40 Loading souce Elisp faster Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25  1:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25  2:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25  2:55     ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25  3:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25  4:35         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-02-25  4:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25  5:24         ` Paul Eggert
2013-02-25  6:12           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-25 15:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-25 18:41             ` Paul Eggert
2013-02-26  7:23               ` Werner LEMBERG
2013-02-26  8:48                 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-02-25  5:47         ` Leo Liu
2013-02-25 16:28         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-02-27  4:18         ` Kenichi Handa
2013-02-27 13:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27 14:50             ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 17:49             ` Werner LEMBERG
2013-02-27 14:28           ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-28 14:10             ` Kenichi Handa
2013-03-01  2:12               ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-02 12:52                 ` Kenichi Handa
2013-03-03  0:35                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-10 15:19                 ` handa
2013-03-11  1:19                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-15 16:20                   ` handa
2013-03-20  8:15                     ` Kenichi Handa
2013-02-25  7:24 ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-25 11:43 ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-25 15:19   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 15:36     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2013-02-25 16:09       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 16:31         ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25 18:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 19:20             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25 20:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 20:57                 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25 21:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 21:57                     ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-25 23:59                       ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-26 17:27                         ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-26 21:38                           ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-26 21:43                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-02-26 21:47                               ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-26  4:54           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-02-26  8:29             ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-02-25 21:51     ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-25 23:54       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-25 15:35   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-25 13:33 ` Kenichi Handa
2013-02-25 13:50   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-25 15:35     ` Drew Adams
2013-02-25 15:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-25 22:39       ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-26  3:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-26 10:44           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-26 17:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-25 15:35   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-25 16:45 ` David Engster
2013-02-26 12:56   ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-26 16:26     ` David Engster
2013-02-26 20:19       ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-26 21:00         ` David Engster
2013-02-26 21:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-26 21:18             ` David Engster
2013-02-26 22:40               ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-26 22:51               ` David Engster
2013-02-27  0:44                 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27  1:22           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27  1:56             ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-27 14:28             ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-27 15:21               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27 17:21                 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-27 18:31             ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-27 18:39               ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 19:28                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-27 22:32                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-27 18:43               ` Lennart Borgman
2013-02-27  4:49           ` Kenichi Handa
2013-02-27 14:27           ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-26 16:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-26 20:19       ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-26 20:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-27  2:22     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-02-25 21:12 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-25 22:47   ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-25 21:17 ` Barry Warsaw
2013-02-26  7:10   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-02-26  7:59 ` Andreas Röhler

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