Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

[David Reitter]

I back-ported the two macOS Mojave fixes to Emacs 25.
Please check my handiwork before I push it [1]

One user reported issues with the cursor leaving traces while scrolling [2], which I reproduced on a pre-Mojave machine, but not on my Mojave system.  I’m unclear whether that is also the case on the 26 branch.  I can try tomorrow unless someone else can comment.

[1] https://github.com/davidswelt/aquamacs-emacs/tree/emacs25-mojave
[2] https://www.dropbox.com/s/5rtt22lg0ddy07w/Aquamacs%20cursor.mov?dl=0


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Re: Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 17:44:39 -0400
> Cc: alan@idiocy.org
> 
> I back-ported the two macOS Mojave fixes to Emacs 25.
> Please check my handiwork before I push it [1]

Thanks, but there will be no more Emacs 25 releases, so pushing the
changes there is rather pointless.

Re: Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

[Van L]

> there will be no more Emacs 25 releases

What a bummer.

Re: Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Van L <van@scratch.space>
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 17:29:07 +1000
> 
> > there will be no more Emacs 25 releases
> 
> What a bummer.

??? Why a bummer?  Emacs 26.1 is already out, and it's standing Emacs
policy not to keep emacs-N branches active once Emacs M.1 was
released, where M > N.  We only make exceptions when we uncover a
critical security issue with prior versions; otherwise we simply tell
users to upgrade their Emacs.

Re: Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

[Van L]

>>> there will be no more Emacs 25 releases
>> 
>> What a bummer.
> 
> ??? Why a bummer?  Emacs 26.1 is already out, and it's standing Emacs
> policy not to keep emacs-N branches active once Emacs M.1 was
> released, where M > N.  We only make exceptions when we uncover a
> critical security issue with prior versions; otherwise we simply tell
> users to upgrade their Emacs.

This 25 Emacs fixes backport corrects a showstopper, it lets 25 Emacs to install is my guess.

People should be "free" to operate which ever version of Emacs they feel is comfortably Perfect for their needs.

I am trying 25.3 in the search for less gratuitous schleps in the ui-experience without having to accumulate non default settings.

Re: Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Van L <van@scratch.space>
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 20:15:23 +1000
> 
> People should be "free" to operate which ever version of Emacs they feel is comfortably Perfect for their needs.

That is ideally a worthy goal, but I don't think we have the resources
to make that happen any time soon.  Motivated individuals are welcome
to produce patches versions of past Emacs releases; after all, the
repository is a public one and freely accessible.

Re: Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

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Re: Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

[Robert Pluim]

Van L <van@scratch.space> writes:

>>>> there will be no more Emacs 25 releases
>>> 
>>> What a bummer.
>> 
>> ??? Why a bummer?  Emacs 26.1 is already out, and it's standing Emacs
>> policy not to keep emacs-N branches active once Emacs M.1 was
>> released, where M > N.  We only make exceptions when we uncover a
>> critical security issue with prior versions; otherwise we simply tell
>> users to upgrade their Emacs.
>
> This 25 Emacs fixes backport corrects a showstopper, it lets 25 Emacs to install is my guess.
>
> People should be "free" to operate which ever version of Emacs they feel is comfortably Perfect for their needs.
>

Nobody is suggesting that you are not allowed to run Emacs 25 + this
patch. All Eli is saying is that there won't be an official release
with it in.

Robert

Re: Emacs 25 Mojave fixes backport

[Van L]

> Nobody is suggesting that you are not allowed to run Emacs 25 + this
> patch. All Eli is saying is that there won't be an official release
> with it in.

The point is not only about me. Oh well… shrug.