From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: set-face-attribute width condensed/expanded no difference? (Mac) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:16:30 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1f45329e-f7a5-4006-b48a-bcb23e69fac0@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <1d2a87ac-4d20-499d-9dcb-49cab27d3cf8@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195834660 23581 80.91.229.12 (23 Nov 2007 16:17:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Presto Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 23 17:17:47 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IvbDt-0007uJ-Il for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:17:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvbDf-0007Ho-0H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:17:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IvbCo-0007GR-5t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:16:39 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IvbCl-0007FC-3c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:16:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvbCk-0007F4-AX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:16:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de ([217.72.192.227]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IvbCj-0005Pg-PL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:16:34 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89638B2263F2; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:16:32 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [195.4.208.130] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IvbCi-0003Qm-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:16:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1d2a87ac-4d20-499d-9dcb-49cab27d3cf8@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/0oaKMCGys/D30wo6mW6mHL+T5WFHCaPPhU3MK VopQNra4dOCVqZ6pEGYWdCCB2cweJRLy3yXi1TQp0HNVHfVlqg t1YV8bWD3yxMkv4kY/FQ== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:49445 Archived-At: Am 23.11.2007 um 16:18 schrieb Presto: > Is there any hack (possibly involving > building from source) with which I could set character spacing? Even > setting a constant for all fonts would suffice. There is, quite certainly. The (Japanese) Carbon Emacs (Package) contains some extra ELisp files, that do some font manipulation. I never tried to understand what they're doing, but they need to do some adjustments that CJK glyphs can be combined with Latin ones, which probably is a common case. But: they don't work perfectly in case faces are mixed (regular with variants). > > Alternatively, is there a source code file in CVS that I can track to > discover when support is added? (Looking at commit logs) There is one big problem with this approach: the development for Mac OS X has stopped. Carbon Emacsen are based mostly on stable GNU Emacs code, i.e. GNU Emacs 22.1 (or 22.2?). Emacs.app is based on 23.0.60 code. I've seen that both Carbon Emacs and the Cocoa Emacs.app support the typical Mac OS X font panel. From this you can choose also "Typographical Features" that some fonts have. Changes made here, for example more or less space between characters, are not applied to the frame, and neither colour or shadow. This looks as if some parts of ATSUI are not fully enabled ... I'd wish it was, because some mono- spaced fonts seem to have incorrect values recorded for some dimensions and some adjustment by hand would be fine. http://emacs-app.sourceforge.net/ http://macwiki.sourceforge.jp/emacs/ http://sourceforge.jp/projects/macemacsjp/files/ MacOSX-Emacs mailing list MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx "Carbon Emacs" group mailing list. To post to this group, send email to carbon-emacs@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to carbon-emacs- unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ carbon-emacs?hl=en -- Greetings Pete "engineer: a mechanism for converting caffeine into designs"