From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: emacs menu bar tuning suggestion. Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:08:25 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5f5f5209-a257-4c2e-b73a-54c7bd86eee3@g15g2000pra.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1246135784 20982 80.91.229.12 (27 Jun 2009 20:49:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:49:44 +0000 (UTC) To: "'QT'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 27 22:49:37 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MKeq6-00043f-GW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:49:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36318 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MKeq5-0000ia-So for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:49:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MKbOC-00046H-Ci for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:08:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MKbO7-0003x9-4J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:08:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42301 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MKbO6-0003wl-Uh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:08:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet11.oracle.com ([148.87.113.123]:50753 helo=rgminet11.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MKbO6-0006Wz-Ik for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:08:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n5RH9cGF009041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:09:39 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt001.oracle.com (abhmt001.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n5RH8TmG023392; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:08:29 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.23.164.86) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:08:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5f5f5209-a257-4c2e-b73a-54c7bd86eee3@g15g2000pra.googlegroups.com> Thread-Index: Acn3H5mcOXMVVbJ4QsybpyIA/G3t4QAKM+9w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt001.oracle.com [141.146.116.10] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010202.4A465206.006F:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:47:40 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:65604 Archived-At: > Can we unified the usages of TMM and GUI Menu bar? > When I used emacs, I always lost in its huge amount of commands. > If we can make our emacs menu have accelerators just like normal GUI > Application. I think it will be more friendly to newbies. > And after newbies has familiar with those command, they should call > them in the same key bindings without showing menus. > I feel this is a more intuitive way for me to learn a new software. > > So, can we make our emacs menu have accelerator just like normal GUI > Application? Try LaCarte, http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/LaCarte, instead of tmm.el. Try LaCarte with Icicles, to explore the menu tree and go directly to submenu items. http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/Icicles See http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MenuBar for menu-bar enhancements and customization, including menu-bar+.el. > I think NCurse, GTK and Win32 both support it natively. > menuacc.el - part of EmacsW32. Provides keyboard accelerators for > Emacs menu items. (Currently this only works with the patched version > of Emacs+EmacsW32. There is no Windows specific code in it really, but > the needed support in Emacs is not yet there.) See the comments in the lacarte.el header about handling Windows menu accelerators, such as those Lennart adds with EmacsW32.