From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bootstrap/autoload policy (was Re: regular expressions that match nothing) Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 16:07:22 +0200 Message-ID: References: <7a6b23f52418b093a4cf7a6db4306cf425533249.camel@acm.org> <87a7fnzd3u.fsf@web.de> <128EBFB8-78FF-47C3-8F28-C1EF91BFC4BB@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="161282"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 22 16:08:37 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTRv3-000fnP-5V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 16:08:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43998 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTRv1-0000st-Kx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48296) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTRtx-0000rV-8d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:07:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTRtw-0005Ai-81 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail175c50.megamailservers.eu ([91.136.10.185]:58110 helo=mail50c50.megamailservers.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTRtv-00059M-LO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 10:07:28 -0400 X-Authenticated-User: mattiase@bredband.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.eu; s=maildub; t=1558534045; bh=IBMUxYxtM1gmdfe0+LudmVZPJ/cb29UN2gRynlP8jJE=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=LVMc+p0rxgSKdgr9OCWNqL1kjzaXMKqTrx6wzk6NvwDbMyyFpaYUZpvOc7muGzNc3 fSuJX6ZK31OFPc2WvWkIzTXiKdXyncZa373nV+w1tdELQPZCK5WWdbj7ePTX4NgNwc U/7p3MtMnRJQFYf0/+GC9PoaUuhd4X5tj7DyqW1E= Feedback-ID: mattiase@acm.or Original-Received: from [192.168.0.4] ([188.150.171.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail50c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id x4ME7NEa018496; Wed, 22 May 2019 14:07:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0207.5CE5579C.0092, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.3 cv=VLnzYeHX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=SF+I6pRkHZhrawxbOkkvaA==:117 a=SF+I6pRkHZhrawxbOkkvaA==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=iRZporoAAAAA:8 a=cufHPPXglsOffLq8MTAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NOBgFS-JBQ2l-kSd6-zu:22 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 91.136.10.185 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236895 Archived-At: 22 maj 2019 kl. 16.02 skrev Stefan Monnier : >=20 > cl-every is not autoloaded (in general). It's only autoloaded after = you > (require 'cl-lib), which is The Right Way to get it defined (as = opposed > to requiring cl-extra which is wrong because where cl-every is defined > is an internal implementation detail of cl-lib). I thought so too, but rx.el already did require cl-lib, and that was = apparently not enough. Hence my confusion.