From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2470: 23.0.90; auto-fill-mode, :minor-mode-function Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:54:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <003701c99772$d0fbab30$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <145EC85C85264E49BF0FA8DD32E55905@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310291794 3970 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2011 09:56:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2470@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 10 11:56:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfqkU-0001yg-K3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:56:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44174 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfqkT-0001DS-Gv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:56:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47461) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfqkB-0001DK-Vl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:56:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfqk7-00080X-4S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:56:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39995) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfqk6-00080T-Uk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfqk6-00055W-I9; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2470 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2470-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2470.131029172219505 (code B ref 2470); Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2470) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2011 09:55:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfqjR-00054Y-29 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:55:21 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfqjO-00054M-TC for 2470@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:55:19 -0400 Original-Received: from rtcsinet22.oracle.com (rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6A9tBqX031550 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:55:13 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rtcsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6A9tAhD020988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:55:10 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6A9t4T7021670; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.32.168) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:55:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acw+jqwRY/+6/EPaSZata36d5lOqrQAV2b+A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A02020A.4E197701.0069:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:56:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48453 Archived-At: > > That's really the question, I think. =A0Are things=20 > > sufficiently clear (e.g. from > > the doc) that a user would now know how to tell this? >=20 > Likely not, though strictly speaking, a user that needs to know the > variable name will usually be able to take a look at minor-mode-alist > and deduce it by himself. >=20 > In any case, could you please suggest a suitable change for the > docstring of auto-fill-mode? I don't see a problem with that doc string in particular. What did you have in mind? This part is a little unclear: "The value of `normal-auto-fill-function' specifies the function to use for `auto-fill-function' when turning Auto Fill mode on." One wonders why it speaks of `auto-fill-function', as if it is something understood (begs the question of its relation to `auto-fill-mode'). If you then click the `auto-fill-function' link you get doc on that = function, but it's not clear at all what it has to do with `auto-fill-mode'. It does say also this: "auto-fill-function is also a variable." But the = name is neither quoted (`...') nor a link to help on that var. And there is = nothing saying anything about what you said: that the variable tells you = whether `auto-fill-mode' is on (which was the OP question). Perhaps we should at least add something like this to the = `auto-fill-mode' doc: "When `auto-fill-mode' is on, variable `auto-fill-function' is = non-`nil'."