From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Copy/iSearch/Occur on folded outline view? Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:52:06 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87obg0e7gg.fsf@googlemail.com> <87y5f37q0t.fsf@bzg.ath.cx><876226tt19.fsf@web.de> <87r4kuquhm.fsf@gmail.com><7B8FEE3403FC47C5BFA33D0F7A2E9ABD@us.oracle.com> <87y5f1s90y.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360169924 30602 80.91.229.3 (6 Feb 2013 16:58:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:58:44 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Michael Heerdegen'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 06 17:59:04 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U38Kt-0005El-QU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:59:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39700 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U38Fj-00086D-8R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:53:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45158) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U38EG-00082D-7b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:53:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U38EE-0007Ek-P3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:52:12 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:42704) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U38EE-0007EX-Ia for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:52:10 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r16Gq88w003655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:52:09 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r16Gq7rb012622 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:52:08 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r16Gq7Sj022888; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:52:07 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:52:07 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87y5f1s90y.fsf@web.de> Thread-Index: Ac4Eh2OxekMYxCYrR9KnzMCcy233cwAAYj5w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:88996 Archived-At: > > > FYI, Isearch+ also provides toggle key `C-+' for this. > > > > I'm willing to allow this for org-mode. > > Mainly FYI: Please note that this kind of solution may users > of org make think that `isearch-query-replace' and > `isearch-query-replace-regexp' (bound to M-% and C-M-%) > would be able to handle invisible text. > > This is not the case, however - these commands never ignore > invisible text and don't hesitate to replace stuff in regions > that the user doesn't see. This is dangerous! > > I filed two bug reports about these problems some time ago: > 24.1.50; Suggestion: Let M-i in isearch cycle `search-invisible' > feature request: `isearch-query-replace' should open invisible text > > Sadly, both things were not yet realized. Yes, that's too bad. FWIW, I tried searching in the bugs database for "search-invisible" in the Subject line, and I could find only this one (#11378): http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11378 > But nevertheless I think it would be good if we could find a > solution for the whole of Emacs, not only for Org. +1 But lacking a response in that direction from Emacs Dev, adding it to Org is a start. Eventually, Org users who are used to this would add to the request for it for Emacs as a whole... > Although I'm not against a temporary solution for org-mode alone. +1