From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jurzitza, Dieter" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: AW: gtk-based Emacs 22 as distributed with openSUSE 10.3 and kde Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:52:23 +0100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197449576 31316 80.91.229.12 (12 Dec 2007 08:52:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:52:56 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 12 09:53:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J2NKx-0006cG-59 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:53:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2NKe-0001yU-WE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:52:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J2NKM-0001vk-L7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:52:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J2NKK-0001tS-83 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:52:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2NKJ-0001tB-WF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:52:24 -0500 Original-Received: from moderators.individual.net ([130.133.4.7]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J2NKJ-00041n-Fs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:52:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exprod6og103.obsmtp.com ([64.18.1.185]) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.67) for gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.individual.net with smtp (envelope-from ) id <1J2NKI-00070u-2x>; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:52:22 +0100 Original-Received: from source ([194.121.90.51]) by exprod6ob103.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:52:19 PST Original-Received: from oekaw2ex01.hbi.ad.harman.com (unverified [172.16.1.72]) by oekaw2vw01.hbi.ad.harman.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.12) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:50:30 +0100 Importance: normal Priority: normal Original-Received: from OEKAW2EXVS04.hbi.ad.harman.com ([172.16.1.82]) by oekaw2ex01.hbi.ad.harman.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:52:18 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: gtk-based Emacs 22 as distributed with openSUSE 10.3 and kde Thread-Index: Acg8livuJWLxU/kiRhaYe7kI/UIF3wAApHhQ X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2007 08:52:18.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D011360:01C83C9C] X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17161 Archived-At: Dear listmembers, dear Mr. Luebbers, regarding the questions that have been risen: 1.) I am running kde, not gnome (see the "Betreff" line of my email) 2.) "save your desktop configuration" is a kde option to ensure that the = applications you are using currently will show at the very same window = positions in the very same state (iconified / not iconified) the next = time you log in. I have tested with suse 9.3 and opensuse 10.2 and opensuse 10.3. All = behave identically. Starting an _old_ emacs version (like the one that comes initially with = suse 9.3) with emacs --iconic and saving the desktop ensures that emacs = will show in the taskbar only every time you log in.=20 Starting the new emacs version with emacs --iconic and saving the = desktop will ensure that emacs always starts "on top", no matter what = you do. You see when logging in that emacs iconifies and rises forth and = back several times - this has been added as a commentary to my bugzilla = entry at Novell (#342385) IMHO this is not the expected behaviour as emacs is the only application = that behaves this way. And since it is restricted to the gtk variant = something must have happened in between. However, I can only do "phenomenology", my programming skills are not = appropriate to suggest a fix or a patch. Thank you for looking into this, take care Dieter Jurzitza --=20 ________________________________________________ HARMAN BECKER AUTOMOTIVE SYSTEMS Dr.-Ing. Dieter Jurzitza Manager Hardware Systems System Development Industriegebiet Ittersbach Becker-G=F6ring Str. 16 D-76307 Karlsbad / Germany Phone: +49 (0)7248 71-1577 Mobile: +49 0151 - 16 339 017 Fax: +49 (0)7248 71-1216 eMail: DJurzitza@harmanbecker.com Internet: http://www.becker.de =20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+djurzitza=3Dharmanbecker.com@gnu.org=20 > [mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+djurzitza=3Dharmanbecker.com@gnu.o > rg] Im Auftrag von Jochen Luebbers > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 09:08 > An: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.individual.net > Betreff: Re: gtk-based Emacs 22 as distributed with openSUSE=20 > 10.3 and kde ******* > What does the step "save your desktop configuration" mean=20 > exactly? Are you running a KDE or GNOME desktop environment?=20 > AFAIK saves KDE the states of opened/iconic windows and tells=20 *******=20 =20 ******************************************* Harman Becker Automotive Systems GmbH Geschaeftsfuehrung: Dr. Peter Geiselhart - Michael Mauser - Edwin = Summers - Regis Baudot Sitz der Gesellschaft: Karlsbad - Registergericht: Mannheim HRB 361395 =20 ******************************************* Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte = Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese = E-Mail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den = Absender und loeschen Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die = unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If = you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in = error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. 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