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Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 01:07:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83tvebn1we.fsf@gnu.org> <20190503125832.44ovncaxp3vyjsla@Ergus> <20190504133218.g3ysx3ksuyvlthg3@Ergus> <831BD780-F954-4E23-BF31-ED4E135C919B@icloud.com> <20190506125848.okei2qrib7m5p3vx@Ergus> <20190506161757.wg4wy3vr7emxnciv@Ergus> <443E6AB4-2478-4677-8A23-A0B04559E949@icloud.com> <84F2860D-523D-4F30-BD52-D6A915416167@icloud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="78869"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org,Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 07 01:08:05 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hNmiL-000KPn-GB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 May 2019 01:08:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35113 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNmiK-0004Zj-FT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 May 2019 19:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNmhy-0004Xu-GY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2019 19:07:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNmhw-0004Bg-MF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2019 19:07:42 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic304-23.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([77.238.179.148]:42790) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNmhv-0004A4-Fe for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2019 19:07:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1557184056; bh=yNSzlprzrLkRqLz66+ochZ6oVMkNS1vZqERexPfxryA=; h=Date:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:From:Subject; b=RrYnFAq2yJBrIPXcMg3oEoH5gZ8pwfWP+1fTGfAHBR48eoo3a3KLTEvIkhB3HPNMC+Sr7hwS8h+h3fHzkh08fr8fOklwT64+UvlVRhGK/Z0z7v44SHctinlwypOh2tPK3ihUvTmKLaZ7IcV4KBIb4fCBk7hLtpeE7WKZYvW0cv1+uJp7jQMhERNvlEzAQC+nAgoL2H2WTfv749XHMAYN1QwLZ1N1bYoTJST7KYJf01rqfyFtj+Z+HfSx65JFJsxgDJjy681Hq7uvMGM9Bz94OJE26SaHdR4HtKkXxaaxZ78dwoLwLKRVE8gUrKDAYiArJlsJ2e5WlRu21X/5QF4wdw== X-YMail-OSG: rnDSpakVM1ln4OV8.ypEwa4k3EHCqT23NwXTQtmbfEF3N27fh4ABih3gc3HCdyH 9qRZ4ZvGB8OSpE0jFQLCs85kTGZ_6pqKb9GLNwJs7eqzbkkUcx7PyTp.LB.g5bnRJrVYFQcnlVpd XEZiJT8.wlTTOF91hKjOJ2cwpYn0aitxSZVPSAafmbfHIwpNk4fNVsMN.kO1b5b.h4o26hGD6I_k Ka.VjCztJtnmZZ0NoLteziPvoxUyhCBwNFQz0MAwKUp0.St7ZdPIxbUW3O645xAnxr7wFeXmXJJ7 76YIlvDA_e_2fzD37BKcM1GKXYILFXVVb2UDqEj8Dn3ROddj.G6aJhoDdJsanLFpv1_vHBhD9Jp. rltYrCUx7vzHVn7aK15cvNNWNIVDpAazd3kQltZ.H4mIiLCHBfsxGLbj5aac6sz_gle9W0fVCwtA Zx44iZJBqC8AaWJDB69uVjfHFTiezRFcLqV32I8T4QezOV7gT5JFfvDvE6TKo8Z0NhPNEM2_6CMs 02yaGuljl7YtsD_iZwyxwkcoDT6b7yfquNp0qF6SPBlLGpk6bDt_aLpn5ZaW7t7ZvVif9TIp7KKa jn5PqHgoK5qSfw702LhKE2ms1qd.ravzJFsjmAm0v1qdiaKBXoaNU2BgBfjVAVOBpFs17_VShIxD 5LRFaiMH6pzr7lTTKowtvmzCTgK3hehC2bzDPTf2QM_gAkj8zA1FUtZQIQeWwNiSBLvVGIf.aPWd sGWMccj8nWs.v_rokUkWo6weTBLghz92p1meRw8xiGn00aCicwpDBOna9bdniBOkfJE.aF9Ii._N o4oTCSsH4TpQtVWwt236SBfZGRucZDYqb.rPjnbmZh Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 6 May 2019 23:07:36 +0000 Original-Received: from 2.152.205.184.dyn.user.ono.com (EHLO [192.168.1.44]) ([2.152.205.184]) by smtp409.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e8a393736c300dff13ead3dfdda6d201; Mon, 06 May 2019 23:07:34 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 77.238.179.148 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120241 Archived-At: Hi again: Sorry for my ignorance=2E Syntactically speaking which are the key differe= nces between CL and Elisp you think may produce the bigger issues? On May 6, 2019 8:47:12 PM GMT+02:00, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> [ IIUC of the 4 cases above, at most 2 run the same version, so we'd >>> need to make sure the same Emacs version can be compiled against >all >>> of those versions=2E No idea if it would impose a significant extra >>> burden or not, but it's something to be considered=2E Also the fact >>> that the latest release doesn't work on all those platforms is >rather >>> worrying=2E ] >> >> Hmm=E2=80=A6? I can=E2=80=99t understand :-( >> Why can=E2=80=99t Emacs can include a specific version of SBCL=E2=80=99= s source (e=2Eg=2E >as >> a git module) and compile them all together?=CC=8A=CC=88 > >Exactly because the version that can run on ARM is not the same as the >one that can run under Windows, which is not the same as the one that >runs under AMD64=2E > >Of course, maybe I'm confused by the table of available binaries (at >http://sbcl=2Eorg/platform-table=2Ehtml), and in reality the latest versi= on >works fine on all supported platforms=2E > > > Stefan --=20 Enviado desde mi dispositivo Android con K-9 Mail=2E Por favor, disculpa m= i brevedad=2E --=20 Enviado desde mi dispositivo Android con K-9 Mail=2E Por favor, disculpa m= i brevedad=2E