* bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar
@ 2009-03-29 0:04 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-04-02 6:40 ` bug#2811: marked as done (23.0.91; calendar) Emacs bug Tracking System
[not found] ` <handler.2811.D2811.123865413030289.notifdone@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-03-29 0:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-pretest-bug
Hello!
I have "localised" calendar by teaching it German, for example to
when outputting holidays:
Mi, 25. Februar 2009: Aschermittwoch
So, 8. März 2009: Internationaler Frauentag
Fr, 20. März 2009: Frühlings-Tagundnachtgleiche um 12 Uhr 43
So, 29. März 2009: Daylight Saving Time Begins 02 Uhr 00
Mi, 1. April 2009: 1. April
...
So, 25. Oktober 2009: Daylight Saving Time Ends 03 Uhr 00
Only the date when Daylight Saving Time starts or ends are in
English – since s few months, I think, then already in version
23.0.60 (as my old copy from January shows). Before they of course
were Germanised too:
So, 29. März 2009: Sommerzeit beginnt um 02 Uhr 00
In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version 2.14.7)
of 2009-03-28 on Latsche.local
Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version
11.0.40400000
configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '--
with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff'
'--with-gif' '--with-png' '--x-includes=/opt/local/include' '--x-
libraries=/opt/local/lib' '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/
Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application Support/
Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/
pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -
fPIC -mcpu=7450 -mtune=7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -
foptimize-register-move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-
partition -fthread-jumps -fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'LDFLAGS=-
dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress' 'CPPFLAGS=''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Calendar
Minor modes in effect:
TeX-PDF-mode: t
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
diff-auto-refine-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
display-time-mode: t
desktop-save-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
global-auto-composition-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
column-number-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
--
Greetings
Pete
»¿ʇı̣ əsnqɐ ʇ,uɐɔ noʎ ɟı̣
ɓuı̣ɥʇʎuɐ sı̣ pooɓ ʇɐɥʍ«
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* bug#2811: marked as done (23.0.91; calendar)
2009-03-29 0:04 ` bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar Peter Dyballa
@ 2009-04-02 6:40 ` Emacs bug Tracking System
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From: Emacs bug Tracking System @ 2009-04-02 6:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris
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From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE>
To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: 23.0.91; calendar
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:04:27 +0100
Message-ID: <A01B75BA-4D72-424A-BC53-21824B9357A5@Freenet.DE>
Hello!
I have "localised" calendar by teaching it German, for example to
when outputting holidays:
Mi, 25. Februar 2009: Aschermittwoch
So, 8. März 2009: Internationaler Frauentag
Fr, 20. März 2009: Frühlings-Tagundnachtgleiche um 12 Uhr 43
So, 29. März 2009: Daylight Saving Time Begins 02 Uhr 00
Mi, 1. April 2009: 1. April
...
So, 25. Oktober 2009: Daylight Saving Time Ends 03 Uhr 00
Only the date when Daylight Saving Time starts or ends are in
English – since s few months, I think, then already in version
23.0.60 (as my old copy from January shows). Before they of course
were Germanised too:
So, 29. März 2009: Sommerzeit beginnt um 02 Uhr 00
In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version 2.14.7)
of 2009-03-28 on Latsche.local
Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version
11.0.40400000
configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '--
with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff'
'--with-gif' '--with-png' '--x-includes=/opt/local/include' '--x-
libraries=/opt/local/lib' '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/
Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application Support/
Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/
pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -
fPIC -mcpu=7450 -mtune=7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -
foptimize-register-move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-
partition -fthread-jumps -fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'LDFLAGS=-
dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress' 'CPPFLAGS=''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Calendar
Minor modes in effect:
TeX-PDF-mode: t
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
diff-auto-refine-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
display-time-mode: t
desktop-save-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
global-auto-composition-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
column-number-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
--
Greetings
Pete
»¿ʇı̣ əsnqɐ ʇ,uɐɔ noʎ ɟı̣
ɓuı̣ɥʇʎuɐ sı̣ pooɓ ʇɐɥʍ«
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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: 2811-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:35:24 -0400
Message-ID: <woy6ujo95f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
Peter Dyballa wrote:
> Only the date when Daylight Saving Time starts or ends are in
> English – since s few months, I think, then already in version
> 23.0.60 (as my old copy from January shows).
This report lacks details, but I believe this is fixed now.
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* bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar)
[not found] ` <handler.2811.D2811.123865413030289.notifdone@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>
@ 2009-04-02 22:43 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-04-02 23:27 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-04-02 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 2811
Am 02.04.2009 um 08:40 schrieb Emacs bug Tracking System:
>> Only the date when Daylight Saving Time starts or ends are in
>> English – since s few months, I think, then already in version
>> 23.0.60 (as my old copy from January shows).
>
> This report lacks details, but I believe this is fixed now.
No, it has not.
Possible details:
load-path has on top a directory where Germanised versions of some
calendar ELisp files exist:
/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:
total 712
drwxrwxr-x 10 root admin 340 2 Apr 22:22 .
drwxrwxr-x 148 pete admin 5032 29 Mär 00:58 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 11164 16 Jan 22:55 cal-menu.el
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 15962 25 Jan 11:20 cal-move.el
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 7342 16 Jan 22:58 cal-x.el
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 109844 28 Mär 21:58 calendar.el
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 108934 2 Apr 22:22 diary-lib.el
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 38696 2 Apr 22:18 holidays.el
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 16925 28 Mär 22:07 lunar.el
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 44565 16 Jan 23:22 solar.el
Some differences in holidays.el (mine vs. original):
331c304
< (format "Sommerzeit beginnt um %s"
---
> (format "Daylight Saving Time Begins %s"
336c309
< (format "Sommerzeit endet um %s"
---
> (format "Daylight Saving Time Ends %s"
354a328,329
> holiday-hebrew-holidays holiday-islamic-holidays
> holiday-bahai-holidays holiday-oriental-holidays
The differences in line numbers are due to having more holidays here.
--
Greetings
Pete
"No man was ever taken to hell by a woman unless he already had a
ticket in his pocket, or at least had been fooling around with
timetables."
– Archie Goodwin
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* bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar)
2009-04-02 22:43 ` bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar) Peter Dyballa
@ 2009-04-02 23:27 ` Glenn Morris
2009-04-03 8:01 ` Peter Dyballa
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-04-02 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: 2811
Peter Dyballa wrote:
> load-path has on top a directory where Germanised versions of some
> calendar ELisp files exist:
Oh, how obvious.
> Some differences in holidays.el (mine vs. original):
>
> 331c304
> < (format "Sommerzeit beginnt um %s"
> ---
> > (format "Daylight Saving Time Begins %s"
> 336c309
> < (format "Sommerzeit endet um %s"
> ---
> > (format "Daylight Saving Time Ends %s"
> 354a328,329
> > holiday-hebrew-holidays holiday-islamic-holidays
> > holiday-bahai-holidays holiday-oriental-holidays
You seem to be attempting to redefine autoloaded variables that are
dumped in loaddefs.el. This isn't going to work.
Why don't you just use (setq calendar-holidays ...) as normal?
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* bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar)
2009-04-02 23:27 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-04-03 8:01 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-04-03 17:04 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-04-03 8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2811
Am 03.04.2009 um 01:27 schrieb Glenn Morris:
> Why don't you just use (setq calendar-holidays ...) as normal?
I'm using them in the site init file. And additionally I want German
text. This worked for almost 20 years now ... Actually it's only the
"Daylight Saving Time Begins" and "Daylight Saving Time Ends" which
don't translate.
--
Greetings
Pete
The world would be a better place if Larry Wall had been born in
Iceland, or any other country where the native language actually has
syntax.
– Peter da Silva
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* bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar)
2009-04-03 8:01 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2009-04-03 17:04 ` Glenn Morris
2009-04-03 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-03 21:55 ` Peter Dyballa
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-04-03 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: 2811
Peter Dyballa wrote:
> Am 03.04.2009 um 01:27 schrieb Glenn Morris:
>
>> Why don't you just use (setq calendar-holidays ...) as normal?
>
> I'm using them in the site init file. And additionally I want German
> text.
I don't see the relevance of either of these facts. The recommended
way to do this is to use (setq calendar-holidays ...), whether in your
.emacs or site init file. Copying an entire lisp file and making
selective changes is never going to be the recommended method of doing
anything.
> This worked for almost 20 years now ... Actually it's only the
> "Daylight Saving Time Begins" and "Daylight Saving Time Ends" which
> don't translate.
I must misunderstand, because I can't see how what you describe would
ever work.
solar-holidays is an autoloaded defcustom (and was in Emacs 21.4 as
well). This means the definition is in loaddefs.el, and hence gets
dumped into the executable. Hence in `emacs -Q', solar-holidays is
already defined, with the original value.
If you then attempt to load a changed holidays.el, the second
defcustom has no effect on the previously defined value. You need to
use a setq.
(Personally, I wish these and other defcustoms were not autoloaded,
but people are used to them being so, so it's impossible to change.)
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* bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar)
2009-04-03 17:04 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-04-03 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-03 21:55 ` Peter Dyballa
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2009-04-03 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Peter Dyballa, 2811
> (Personally, I wish these and other defcustoms were not autoloaded,
> but people are used to them being so, so it's impossible to change.)
It can be changed alright. People will complain, tho.
Clearly, it cannot be changed during the pretest.
Stefan "who dislikes autoloaded vars"
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* bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar)
2009-04-03 17:04 ` Glenn Morris
2009-04-03 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2009-04-03 21:55 ` Peter Dyballa
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-04-03 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2811
Am 03.04.2009 um 19:04 schrieb Glenn Morris:
>> This worked for almost 20 years now ... Actually it's only the
>> "Daylight Saving Time Begins" and "Daylight Saving Time Ends" which
>> don't translate.
>
> I must misunderstand, because I can't see how what you describe would
> ever work.
>
I think I was wrong: I had for long time "patched" the ELisp source
files, which I gave up some time after GNU Emacs 23.0.0 came out.
Maybe these "translations" were left, overlooked, in the sources.
Last autumn I checked out GNU Emacs 23.0.xy completely for some
reasons, and in January I noticed that the "translations" were gone ...
--
Greetings
Pete
Behold the warranty ... the bold print giveth and the fine print
taketh away.
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